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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (483782)10/30/2003 11:17:29 AM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 769670
 
Gee Kenneth have you forgotten the market has closed higher the last 3 days? Keep trying to put a spin on everything good Topsy!



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (483782)10/30/2003 11:20:18 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
LOL, it's priced in kenny, why do think the stock market has been rising all that time you have been whinning doom and gloom. Those in the know knew it long ago and now the poor dems are finding out the bad news for their plans of treason.

have a nice day if you can.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (483782)10/30/2003 11:30:22 AM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 769670
 
Walk of Shame
Bill Clinton's party.

“There is nothing this man won't do. He is immune to shame. Move past all the nice posturing and get really down in there in him, you find absolutely nothing . . . nothing but an appetite." — Jesse Jackson on Bill Clinton, 1992

Rarely has the intellectual rot of liberalism been more evident. Both at home and abroad, the honorable tradition of liberalism — and there is one — has been hollowed out by its own appetite for power and vengeance. Indeed, it is exceedingly difficult to see how liberalism, at the national level, stands for anything but appetite — undirected, inarticulate, unprincipled, ravenous appetite. Truly it has become Bill Clinton's party.

Consider two stories of demonstrably unequal importance, which nonetheless have fascinated the chattering classes: The $20 billion request for Iraqi reconstruction, and the effort underway to create a successful liberal think tank.

Let's start with the more important story. Today the "principled" position of the Democratic party's leaders is to cavil and equivocate about the "need" to rebuild Iraq. I use quotation marks around "need" not because the necessity to get the job done isn't there, but because America's leading political liberals treat the very idea that we have to fix Iraq with winks and smirks.

Whether the war was necessary or not, reasonable people of all political persuasions outside the arena of partisan politics understand that the task of reconstructing Iraq is immensely necessary.

If the United States were to "bring the boys home" now, Iraq would implode, America would be seen as not merely a bully (which is not always bad, but rarely good) but also a bully with a glass jaw — which, as every thinking person must understand, would be an invitation to disaster of precisely the sort that left the World Trade Center in ruins.

Of course, except for the odd character actors at the left end of the screen in the Democratic presidential debates, the leading candidates do not say they are in favor of immediate withdrawal. Rather, they spew clouds of verbiage about why we need to have a "plan" and insist that until we have a "plan" we should not spend money on Iraq. Senators John Kerry and John Edwards, both of whom voted for the war, voted against spending any money on Iraq's reconstruction because "we don't have a plan" or because we "need a real plan." Wesley Clark and Howard Dean — the Democratic frontrunners — also say that they would have voted against the reconstruction funds. Dean is consistent — and consistently wrong — in that his position has always been "if Bush is for it, I'm against it." Clark, on the other hand, is not only inconsistent on the question whether he supports Bush, but it seems that this inconsistency is his only reliable trait. .
Even the noble exceptions of Gephardt and Lieberman — who voted for the reconstruction funds — often couch their answers in terms that show they want to be seen as close allies of the naysayers.

Of course, the administration does have a plan. And central to that plan is, well, spending money to rebuild Iraq. The Democrats make it sound like all the U.S. Army is doing in Iraq is having one giant-sized Chinese fire drill every day. One can just imagine John Kerry going to the local garage:

Kerry: I won't pay you to fix my car until you have a plan.
Mechanic: Um, I do have a plan: You pay me. I replace the engine I just took out. Your car works. That's the plan.
Kerry:How can you say you have a plan? Look at the terrible shape my car is in. It's worse than before; there isn't even an engine.
Mechanic: You're an idiot.
In the current New Republic, Peter Beinart brilliantly excoriates Kerry and others for such arrogant and willful fecklessness, which, he argues, is the byproduct of mindless partisanship as well as the rising influence of political consultants. All of the top Democratic consultants have run polls, convened focus groups, disemboweled goats — and done whatever else constitutes the science of political augury these days — and concluded that Democratic candidates must draw "clear distinctions" between them and Bush. So, since Bush favors the reconstruction of Iraq — which means, as a practical matter, reluctantly favoring the expenditure of blood and treasure — the Democrats must be against it. By this logic, John Edwards should embrace Satan and start drinking heavily, since Bush is a born-again Christian and a teetotaler.

I'm only marginally kidding. For years, or decades, or even a century, we've been hearing a host of propositions from liberals. Crime and violence are symptoms of poverty. The United States must do more than simply drop bombs; it must alleviate the "root causes" of terrorism, hopelessness, etc. America must be internationally oriented, looking to engage the world and help the unfortunate. It is in America's vital interests to come to the aid of the downtrodden. And, most recently and relevantly, America must get into the business of nation building.

All of these principles have been defenestrated by a party leadership who no longer believe what, during the Clinton years, it constantly claimed to believe: that partisanship should end at the water's edge. Instead, even as we are fighting a guerilla war where the enemy defines victory not in military terms but in its ability to weaken American resolve at home, Democrats are crassly undermining the safety of our troops, the credibility of our nation, and the integrity of their own political philosophy. Every single good thing about liberalism in foreign policy would have the Democrats seeking more money for Iraq. Liberals should be the ones demanding that we send more teachers, more doctors, more librarians, and more troops to protect them. They should be standing on the tarmac helping to load another shipment of soft-ice-cream machines and ping-pong tables bound for Fallujah, Tikrit, and Basra.

And Democratic support for reconstruction isn't required by liberal altruism alone; the good of the both the country and the liberal cause demand it as well. The only place where I think Beinart is wrong in his column is in his overzealous effort to be bipartisan in his criticisms. He asserts that Republicans opposed nation building in Haiti simply out of anti-Clinton pique. No doubt such animus played a role. But many conservatives simply did not believe that nation building in Haiti was anything more than what Charles Krauthammer calls "foreign policy as social work." You simply cannot say the same thing about nation building (or state building) in Iraq. There are vital American interests at stake in the effort to make Iraq a stable, peaceful, and prosperous democracy. Offsetting our reliance on Saudi Arabia, advancing the spread of democracy and prosperity in a historically dangerous region, and — of course — quashing the threat of fanatical Islamic terrorism are all on the line here. Obviously these goals have altruistic components, but they can all be justified through hardheaded realism as well (which simply was not the case with Haiti).

But these Democrats want none of it. They see each setback in Iraq as a political opportunity to question whether we should be there at all. Not only do they send a message of weakening American resolve at precisely the wrong moment, not only do they abandon their historical principles, but they underscore their most enduring political handicap — the impression that Democrats are unserious on foreign policy. They are left with no principle to stand on, no plan of their own to promulgate, and no credibility to trade with. In short, they have ritualistically shorn themselves of everything but animus and appetite. Shame on them.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (483782)10/30/2003 11:37:43 AM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 769670
 
Of Democrats and the UN

by Vincent Fiore

Oct 30, 2003

In what is being described as a diplomatic victory for the Bush administration, the 15 member UN Security Council unanimously adopted resolution 1511; which once you wade through the diplospeak, says the world should rally to the cause of stabilizing Iraq. A week ago this time, a UN resolution in regard to partnership in Iraq was all but dead. Then, it was a semi-intractable UN Secretary General Annan standing fast with Euro-power paper tigers France and Germany, demanding the US shift to Iraq's provisional government within a few short months. Having seen UN overseer attempts in action before in places like Bosnia, Somalia, and Rwanda, the Bush administration wisely regarded this forceful entreaty as DOA. So now the Iraqi occupation has the odor of credibility in the eyes of the world, or so it is said. What effect will it have in the eyes of the 9 Democratic candidates vying for the presidential nomination, whose openmouthed virulence against the person of George W. Bush sounds more like trailer park fare fit for the Jerry Springer show than a serious debate on policy.

Common sense tells us that Howard Dean and company will now have to retire the “unilateralist” charge that they have used to bludgeon the administration with repeatedly. While it's a fact that the US was never alone in the fight to win the war and than the peace in Iraq, now it is on “UN paper”, something that counts for more in the political recesses of the Washington elite. When Sen. John Kerry stated on October 12th that "we need to go to the UN more humbly, more directly, more honestly, solicit help in a way that brings the UN into this effort, or your going to see bomb after bomb after bomb," he stated the Democrat position of trusting an elite world body over that of his own country's sovereignty and its president. With the coming of resolution 1511 though, and the continued improvement of the US economy, it looks as if Democrats are about to lose their 2 main reasons for the underlining failure of the bush administration. Even the lagging indicator of unemployment has begun a slow descent into issue obscurity.

But do not expect an epiphany from Democrats, specifically the candidates running for president, as that smacks of truth telling to the American electorate. They will simply continue their present course, though events as they happen say otherwise. Western media doomsayers are not about to call it a day on the issue of Iraq. Even now progressive organs, while trumpeting UN Resolution 1511, swiftly add the disclaimer that any help from our allies or the UN for that matter, is just wishful thinking for the foreseeable future, and the “Bush administration faces growing problems in Iraq”. {NY Times op-ed 10/17/03} Is it of any surprise that countries such as France and Germany would shrink away when it comes to sending troops? Or that the entire European Union is contributing an embarrassment of 232 million dollars towards a democratic and free Iraq? Everybody sees the duplicity these countries have been engaging in since this whole matter started. It is easy to say that this is more of a contest of prominence on the world stage for Europe than any wholesome thoughts about helping Iraq and its people. It takes just a little more voice to state that these countries would have rather kept Saddam Hussein in power.

It is these thoughts that will warm the Democrat candidate’s heart, the daily strife of Iraq and our relation with other key players in the world. It is these types of thought that have been since a Republican President assumed office. Of course, Democrats were concerned once about Saddam Hussein and his WMD's: "When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for. So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the UN and for the UN to say you got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions." -President Bill Clinton, July 22, 2003.

Sounds familiar? It should. It is what this President has been saying since the run up to war some 20 months ago. And it was this policy of Bill Clinton, that of “regime change” since 1998, that the Bush Administration adopted that produced UN Resolution 1441 in November of 2002. Back in the Clinton Administration, Democrats couldn't line up fast enough to support action against Iraq. A few years later though, these same Clinton democrat hawks have found it politically expedient to bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich, and pretend deception via the Bush administration as they practice it via the American people.

Days before the creation of UN resolution 1511, the 9 democrat contenders had a lot to say regarding the President and the war. The only platform offered up by any is fundamentally a plan that relinquishes control of America’s sovereign right to defend itself as it sees fit against Islamic killers, and have the UN world body essentially act as a proxy for America. This is, in elemental terms, semiautonomous, and wholly stupid. Having the window of recent history to look through should make obvious the folly of turning anything vital over to the UN to manage, much less our very lives. Yet, the democrat presidential contenders seem singularly content to do just that. Further, so myopic are these beliefs, conditioned with an unadulterated hate for Bush, that several as of this writing have even voted against funding the presidents request for 87 Billion dollars to fund the fight against terrorism. A recent debate in Arizona on October 9th underlines these points:

Wesley Clark: “Well, what I say we should do in Iraq is we should have a strategy. This administration doesn’t have one. They need to turn the economic and political piece over to the UN. They can do it best. We need to bring in our allies in around us and we need to work for that success strategy”.
Richard Gephardt: “The president is failing in his responsibilities to get us the help that we need. Its incomprehensible that he’s not been able to get to the UN and get the help we need”.
John Kerry: “We should go to the UN now and get rid of the sense of American occupation in Iraq. I spoke with the secretary general in the last 24 hours, and I know that we could be doing better in terms of pulling other countries to our side now with respect to Iraq”.
Howard Dean: “I believe if the president is serious about supporting our troops in Iraq that he has to say where he’s going to get the money from, and that means he’s got to get rid of 87 billion worth of the tax cuts that went to Ken Lay and his friends at Enron”.

The frontrunners of the Democrat nomination have based their campaigns on the politics of fear, division, and yes, lies. The war against terrorism has been tremendously successful to date, and with the exception of some key allies like the British, we have little to thank our “allies” in the UN for. Money is always an issue, as it has and will cost America a great deal to win this war. But there is no alternative. To hold up money in Congress destined for this fight and use it as a political wedge is not just wrong, it is without conscious. Throwing up Ken Lay and Enron suitably froth’s the Democrat base, but does nothing to keep America safe. I could easily say take the money from the ill-advised 400 billion prescription drug bill to pay for the 87 billion package, but this is this and that is that.

The UN resolution is proving to be a hollow horse in which to ride into battle with. The only legitimacy to expect is the ineptness of a political body whose criteria for success is getting it down on UN paper and than breaking for cocktails at mid-afternoon. It is what they did against Saddam Hussein 18 times since 1990, and tens of thousands have died since than. Democrats have opted to ride this hollow horse into the battle against terrorism with the premise of political legitimacy first, and actual effectiveness second. While President Bush’s seeking of a resolution is at once noble and expected, it is merely window dressing and a waste at that. The UN will not lead the fight against terrorism, because they cannot. Democrats have chosen to cast their lot with this body of fan dancing bureaucrats, thereby signaling that they too will not, and cannot be trusted to lead.

washingtondispatch.com