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To: Dayuhan who wrote (14586)	10/31/2003 2:03:03 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 793656

I think I prefer to live in a secular country The whole idea of a secular country started in Christian countries, and was made ideologically possible by the fact that the Church did not establish itself as a government, but as separate from the government. The Christian church spent its first few centuries as a bunch of NGOs.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (14586)	10/31/2003 2:03:08 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793656

I think I prefer to live in a secular country. We all do. The Muslim ones are only ones where you can't. And it is not just the "Shar'i" type of Justice. The Muslim Culture is least attractive to live in, IMO.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (14586)	10/31/2003 2:06:20 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793656

Sullivan's comment echoes mine. ________________________________ KRUGMAN SQUIRMS: Even he has to concede the economic tidings are basically good. Money quote: My purpose is not to denigrate the impressive estimated 7.2 percent growth rate for the third quarter of 2003. It is, rather, to stress the obvious: we've had our hopes dashed in the past, and it remains to be seen whether this is just another one-hit wonder. Meeoooowwww!! Still, both the New York Times and the Washington Post do their best to bury and downplay the news. andrewsullivan.com