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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (14704)	10/31/2003 7:34:34 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793649

Do you want to see what an analysis on those parameters does to Bill CLinton? Have you forgootten so soon the long campaign finance scandals was involved in? Does "China" ring a bell, speaking of "with the ramifications of the USA as a whole in mind"? How much worse can you get than transferring missile guidance technology to a potential nuclear enemy? You want some more on Rubin? Here's a little bit: nationalreview.com You're going to try to sell the Chairman of Citigroup, THE bank that is guaranteed to be at the center of every big banking scandal, as a saint? Bob Rubin Snow IS NOT Thank God. There may be hope. Remember, Rubin is one of the boys who sold YOU the bubble. He has no integrity on matters of state But Bill Clinton did. usdoj.gov

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (14704)	10/31/2003 7:40:09 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793649

You insist on making all manner of blanket statements, yet frequently others provide substantial facts that stand in clear conflict to your assertions. This post is chalk full of more of the same. It seems your intense bias is clouding your objectivity. And one could make similar lists of almost every President with factual support for each grievance that equals or exceeds your flawed list for Bush. Yet I get the feeling that you want us to believe that Bush is the first or by far the worst, if we could only forget the past & accept this exaggerated version of your reality. Are you trying to sway our POV or reinforcing yours? FWIW, the point I'm getting at is one of credibility Lizzie. It's hard to buy into anything you post when so many others have exposed critical flaws in your assertions & opinions.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (14704)	10/31/2003 8:06:15 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 793649

Dianne Fienstein has stood up to her own campaign contributors Yeah, let's take a look at Dianne's contributors. In doing so, keep in mind that trial lawyers are Silicon Valley's main industry. Most members of Congress get the bulk of their campaign contributions from two main sources: the industries that make up the economic base of their home district and the Washington-based interest groups that pay more attention to the member's committee assignments in Congress. 1 Lawyers/Law Firms $723,793 opensecrets.org Now ISN'T THAT INTERESTING? This is interesting too: + Congress and the Accounting Wars During the boom years of the 1990s, the accounting industry flexed its lobbying muscle on Capitol Hill as never before. Here's a look at the three major political battles of the decade's accounting wars: the fight over stock options, the fight over tort reform, and the all-out war over the attempt to separate auditing and consulting. ........................................................... Top Ten Recipients Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) -- $109,085 Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- $77,600 Jim Sasser (D-Tenn.) -- $64,650 Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) -- $62,100 Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J) -- $60,137 Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) -- $58,300 pbs.org Gee, I seem to remember a battle about stock option accounting. Ensign's bill would delay enforcement of the stock option accounting standard for three years. ......................................................... The bill has 14 co-sponsors including senators from states where computer, Internet and telecommunications companies are significant players. Sens. Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, both D-Calif., have co-sponsored the bill reviewjournal.com This makes a lot of sense right now: sanmarinotribune.com I also came across this which I absolutely refuse to comment on. It is for entertainment value only! California’s butch brunette bomber, Dianne Feinstein, voted to attack Iraq despite politically expedient promises to the contrary. Given her unwavering support of censorship, National ID cards, and hatred of privacy, one cannot but question her political pedigree. While she claims to be half-Jewish on her father’s side, someone at the Department of Justice should investigate where a certain man by the name of Ashcroft happened to be during the time the little tyrant was conceived, because a dirty little ditty about John and Dianne would make a fabulous John Mellencamp song, simultaneously knock the patriotism parasite, Bruce Springstein, off the front pages finally, spawn a Billy Idol cover of White Wedding and explain some extraordinary similarities. pointingfingers.com