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To: elmatador who wrote (40613)	10/31/2003 7:10:25 PM
From: EL KABONG!!!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi elmatador, First Wyoming, and now Washington... I see a pattern beginning to emerge here... You're from Brazil, correct? I think so anyway... I no longer wonder why Brazil's tropical rain forests are alleged to be disappearing... <g> KJC

To: elmatador who wrote (40613)	10/31/2003 10:37:13 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

elmat, Re: It is obvious that a good 15 million would very nice for Washington State. It is obvious you are either pulling my leg or else..... You are reminding me of a Philippino acquaintance of mine who had the same mindset that you seem to be displaying with the latest series of posts you've sent my way. He was wildly enthusiastic about human population explosions. Tragicomically, he died in a kayaking accident. Stupidity was no match for the hydraulic force of water. Perhaps you've seen Akira Kurosawa's "Dersu Uzala"? reel.com If not, you ought to realize that he made this film months after a well considered suicide attempt. My point is that overcrowding the planet, as you propose, is a ridiculous notion. Perhaps you are unclear on the concept. Since Kurosawa made this film about a promyshlenniki who was having his life and culture destroyed by the excesses of Romanov imperialism, the Japanese fleet and their surrogates have reduced the Atlantic blue fin tuna population by 85%. This may not matter to you. But it does to those of us who understand that human impacts are killing the planet we rely on for life. Your idea to grossly overpopulate the steppes of eastern Washington is the risible fantasy of a cocksure and clueless fool who has no concept of the carrying capacity of this planet. The thin gruel of grimy existence that you propose for a grossly overpopulated Washington State is symptomatic of the delusional thinking among lesser minds that has created the greatest crisis of humanity's precarious existence in the universe. Will the present generation destroy ourselves as so many subcultures have done in the past by overwhelming their resources? This seems absolutely to be the inescapable fate of humanity in the age of globalization. The globalization of the fate of the Mesopotamians, the Anasazi, Mayan, Hittite and other disappeared cultures may be about to go big. Africa leads the way, then the Middle East to follow? Here's the bad news about where we are headed: prb.org George Bush's war on the Youth Curve is going to have some profound consequences for this planet. None of them pleasant, good or beneficial to humanity. Yours Truly, Thomas Malthus