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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (14716)10/31/2003 8:11:40 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 793671
 
"facts are in the eye of the beholder"

Aye, there's the rub.

I don't see facts as malleable & relative.

To me, a fact, is a fact, is a fact*. Can't change it.
Can't perceive it into something it isn't. If what you
call a fact can be made into two or more clearly
conflicting things, then it wasn't a cold, hard fact to
begin with.

* From Webster -

Fact - a piece of information presented as having
objective reality - in fact : in truth

: the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY <a question of
fact hinges on evidence>

: something that has actual existence <space exploration
is now a fact> b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of
damage>



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (14716)10/31/2003 8:26:52 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793671
 
Again your perception is flawed. I'm not gung ho bullish
on the market. I do however, believe that the economy
could be far worse than it is when you consider the size
of the Clinton bubble & the traumatic costs of 9/11 piled
one on top of the other.

The fact that we are not currently mired in a severe
recession with negative GDP every quarter for years &
unemployment well above 12% & growing worse each month,
means that something has caused or delayed an expected
outcome - and every bubble in history has ended
horrifically - 9/11 should have sent the US & the global
economy completely into the crapper.

Using your simplistic analogies; since Bush was President
when the economy didn't implode as every other bubble in
history has; then Bush is responsible for saving the
global economy from total disaster & his response to 9/11
had to be a brilliant response.

I'm totally surprised that you aren't 100% pro-Bush.