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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (30939)	11/1/2003 10:48:57 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Edited transcript of Daniel Ellsberg talk with Dick Gordon on NPR's "The Connection," about the White House/Joseph Wilson/Valerie Plame Affair: ellsberg.net <<...People have given this President an unwarranted benefit of the doubt this past year; people want to believe their president is not lying to them, and they particularly want to believe that a war that he's lead us into, with great personal leadership, against opposition in this country and abroad, was just and necessary and successful and worthwhile. It wasn't, actually, and that means that the President has been following a policy that's depended on lies, and on secrets. And that means that he's been vulnerable to a truth-teller at every step of the way, and Joseph Wilson is one of those who did step forward, and provided an example that obviously this White House is very afraid will be followed by others. I hope it will be followed by others. But they set out to intimidate him, and to intimidate others who might emulate him, to show what can happen to you. In my case, I was facing twelve felony counts, and 115 years in prison, but we now know from the Nixon tapes that the White House remained very concerned that I would put out more information about their own administration, which I was prepared to do. To stop that, they started a team under the White House, made of former CIA agents and officials, called the Plumbers, to stop leaks. Their purpose was to stop leaks by any means necessary, including criminal means, and they proceeded to carry out crimes to intimidate me and intimidate others. Obviously this is happening now...>>

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (30939)	11/1/2003 10:49:26 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 89467

In the washington times article this was a quote from one of the interviewees Even with the womanizing issue," he said, "I don't expect to see another president like Clinton in my lifetime. George Bush just followed a very good president." I'm very glad to see people willing to admit that Clinton was an excellent president. Clinton just makes George Bush look all the worse.