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To: KLP who wrote (14842)11/2/2003 5:35:47 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793690
 
Whatever is going on Karen, I think the best thing is to give the place back to the Iraqis ASAP. We were much too ambitious in our planning for running the place long term. Keep a few "lily pads" for our troops, cut down to about 50K of them, and exit next summer with the rest.

That will give us enough "presence" to keep them trying for a Democratic Society. I don't think it will take the Iraqi's long to solve the Terrorist problem.



To: KLP who wrote (14842)11/2/2003 5:54:52 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793690
 
I said this line would be the first to go.

As of late last week, the film had been through at least three edits. The most incendiary line—where Nancy asks the president to do more for AIDS victims and he replies, “They that live in sin shall die in sin”—has been cut.
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The War Over the Gipper
By Sean Smith and Marc Peyser, Newsweek

President Reagan is lounging in his pajamas trying to watch TV when Nancy starts that old argument again. "Al Haig's got to go," she tells Ron. Nancy never liked Haig, and now she's needling her husband again. "You know what he did when you were in the hospital?" she asks. "I know he thought he was going to take control, but that's not so bad," Ron says amiably, between bites of an Oreo. Finally, she swoops in front of the president, placing her blood-red nightgown between him and the television, and gets him where it hurts most. "Get rid of Al, Ronnie, or you're never going to end the cold war!" Bingo. "All right!" he says. "Now get off my goddamn back, will you?"

YOU THINK that fight sounds ugly? It's nothing compared to the brawl over CBS's "The Reagans." This mini-series (scheduled for Nov. 16), is full of scenes from a marriage like the one above, some of them loving, a few of them nasty and many of them certain to tick people off. Two weeks after a leaked script ignited protests, "The Reagans" has become radioactive--and nobody's even seen it yet. A Web site called boycottcbs.com recorded more than 45,000 hits in less than a week. Such commentators as Bill O'Reilly have made "The Reagans" the plat du jour on their menus, and the Republican National Committee now demands that CBS let historians vet the show. But the ugliest battle is inside CBS itself. Stars Judy Davis and James Brolin decline to do any press. Director Robert Allan Ackerman has opted out of the editing, and CBS executives are now cutting it themselves. As one person close to the film says, "It's being edited with a machete." Sources tell NEWSWEEK that the network has even considered selling the $9 million film to Showtime.
What's even more amazing is that none of this happened sooner. "The Reagans" was always meant to be a warts-and-all portrait of an American icon, with ample attention to the president's hands-off approach to governing, his wife's behind-the-scenes power plays and their estrangement from their children. Still, CBS thought the movie was, so to speak, fair and balanced. It credits Reagan with defeating the Soviet Union, and its central theme is the First Couple's love affair. The script was vetted by two teams of lawyers, and producers Neil Meron and Craig Zadan, who would not be interviewed by NEWSWEEK, have insisted that every fact (though not every line of dialogue) is supported by at least two sources. Before a New York Times story last month detailed conservatives' complaints, network executives reportedly loved the movie. "They all thought it was brilliant," says someone who worked on the film.

But the day the Times's story broke--"The Reagans" crew calls it "Black Tuesday"--the movie instantly became trouble. CBS chairman Leslie Moonves, who approved both the script and a juicy eight-minute trailer, ordered the lawyers to look at the movie again, and asked for assurances that the facts were all in order. When he was told everything was fine, Moonves started editing anyway. "There are things we think go too far," he told CNBC's Tina Brown last week. (Moonves also declined to be interviewed by NEWSWEEK.) At that point, Ackerman removed himself from the editing in protest and the actors stopped talking. "Nobody seems to know what's going on," Ackerman told NEWSWEEK. "Whatever is going on is going on very secretly."

As of late last week, the film had been through at least three edits. The most incendiary line--where Nancy asks the president to do more for AIDS victims and he replies, "They that live in sin shall die in sin"--has been cut. So has footage of a young Ron Reagan Jr. doing ballet. (Go figure.) Most of the other cuts come from Nancy's scenes. For all the concern about how the president is portrayed, Davis's take on Nancy looks like Lady Macbeth in a couture dress. "The film version is so milquetoast compared to what her daughter wrote," says Carl Anthony, a producer of the film who once wrote speeches for Nancy. "It's odd to me when people get all worked up, because it's called a dramatization. They forget what that means."

Will the changes satisfy skeptics? Don't bet on it. "I had some Republican call me yesterday," says Jeff Wald, Brolin's manager. "He said, 'You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. He has Alzheimer's and can't defend himself.' Could Jackie Kennedy defend herself when they did the movie on her?" Michael Paranzino, who launched boycottcbs.com, says nothing short of a complete remake would get him to cancel his campaign. "I think they should pull it from November," he says, "bring in consultants who aren't hostile to Reagan and try to come up with a truly balanced picture." Of course if CBS does dump the movie on Showtime--both owned by Viacom--much of the heat would dissipate into the cable ether. But some who worked on the film worry about the long-term implications of "The Reagans" controversy. "This is censorship," says one source. "A pressure group has had a major network rip this movie to shreds." But we can look forward to one fun outcome: the director's-cut DVD.
msnbc.com



To: KLP who wrote (14842)11/2/2003 12:30:48 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793690
 
Pat Buchanan is really ticked. I don't remember anything of this nature that has caused this big a firestorm.

What CBS is doing is truly Orwellian, exactly what the Ministry of Truth was designed to do in Orwell's "1984" -- rewrite history to deceive and propagandize those who had no other source of truth.

The assassination of Ronald Reagan
Pat Buchanan

November 2, 2003

Does Ronald Reagan deserve this? Does Nancy, who has nursed her dying husband through a horribly difficult decade as he struggles in the final hours of his life, deserve what is being done to her?

On Nov. 16 and 18, CBS plans to air a four-hour miniseries, "The Reagans." It purports to be the drama of Reagan's rise to power and presidential years.

It is naked brutal hatched work, a smear of a good man by haters who fabricate and lie to paint Reagan as a religious bigot who thinks those dying of AIDS are getting what God intends for them, and says, numb and crumbling after the Marine barracks massacre in Beirut, "I am the Antichrist."

James Rutenberg of The New York Times describes the script as a "deconstruction" of the Reagan presidency "through a liberal lens."

Reagan's restoration of America's spirit and morale after the malaise of the Carter era goes unmentioned. The astonishing Reagan Recovery, seven straight years of economic growth that created 20 million new jobs, goes unmentioned.

CBS implies Reagan ratted out actors to the Hollywood blacklist. The script has him telling agent Lew Wasserman, "I never called anybody a Commie who wasn't a Commie." Pressed by Nancy to take greater interest in the AIDS crisis, the Reagan actor says, "They that live in sin shall die in sin," and cuts off the conversation. The script implies Reagan got the idea for a U.S. missile defense system from a 1940 movie.

There is no substantiation for any of this.

CBS Chairman Leslie Moonves says it was "very important for me to document everything and give a very fair point of view."

Yet when Rutenberg noted that Nancy did not, as the script said, write Al Haig's resignation letter, CBS cut the scene. Now under fire, Moonves says, "there are things (in the script) we don't like. ... There are things we think go too far. ... So there are some edits being made trying to present a more fair picture of the Reagans."

Moonves is admitting his writers fabricated like Jayson Blair. But when you catch Jayson Blair lying, you do not send him to rewrite. You fire him. What is the matter with Moonves?

What is the matter with Dan Rather and other correspondents whose names America associates with CBS? They did not approve this script, but the company for which they work, CBS, allowed these Hollywood haters to make up quotes to tarnish the legacy and destroy the name of this president in the minds of the young, for whom such docudramas are the only history they will ever know.

Do they approve of this? If not, why have they not said that any CBS show that purports to be history should be rooted in reality and truth, not fabrications and falsehoods?

What CBS is doing is truly Orwellian, exactly what the Ministry of Truth was designed to do in Orwell's "1984" -- rewrite history to deceive and propagandize those who had no other source of truth.

One of the differences between Americans and our communist and Nazis enemies was said to be that we stood for truth, and that they denied and twisted truth, and lied deliberately, for their own ideological ends. Is this not exactly what Hollywood and CBS are doing with "The Reagans"?

"It's horrendous, it's absolutely horrendous," says Michael Reagan. The president's son saw eight minutes of excerpts. "They paint my father as a buffoon." They imply that President Reagan had Alzheimer's in the White House. They have him using God's name in vain. They portray Nancy as an abuser of pills who, in disciplining her 5-year-old daughter, calls to mind Joan Crawford in "Mommie Dearest."

Who did the hatchet job? Its producers, Neil Meron and Craig Zadan, are leftists. Judy Davis, who plays Nancy, sees this show as an antidote to "the ugly specter of patriotism" that swept America after 9-11. James Brolin, who plays Reagan, is the husband of Barbra Streisand, who was seen hanging around the set for weeks.

What Hollywood is about in "The Reagan's" is the trashing of his legacy, the demonizing of the man, and the destruction of his good name and image in the minds of the young, by using lies.

For they could not do it with the truth. If this is not the politics of hate and the politics of personal destruction, what is?

For its role in this cruel attack on a man they could not defeat, but who cannot now fight back, CBS is guilty of the premeditated assassination of the character of Ronald Reagan. A thoroughly rotten piece of business.

townhall.com