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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E. T. who wrote (485148)	11/2/2003 8:33:26 AM
From: jerry manning	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

SWIMMING AROUND THE ATTACK SITE Some sharks were jubilant. "The surfers are pigs. We will hold a celebration because of this toothy attack. No surfer will be safe until they leave our waters." story.news.yahoo.com. Just posting news to keep the thread fair and balanced. Hope it doesn't disturb your liberal, anti-Christian, abortionist sensibilities.

To: E. T. who wrote (485148)	11/2/2003 9:18:02 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The death toll from the copter crash is now up to 15. Bush-Cheney mouthpieces claim the US is actually winning in Iraq--contrary to what everyone else thinks--because those who are "against freedom" are intensifying attacks against civilian targets. Well two thoughts on that: First, who the hell is "against freedom?" Why wouldn't any human walking on earth want freedom? Certainly a dictator would oppose freedom. So how ironic is it that supposedly the most free naton on earth has coddled up to so many dictators over the past decades? Maybe it's a money grab. I guess one can argue that those wanting money, and the power that comes with it, aren't too in tune with freedom either. Why else cozy up to so many American-friendly dictators? Second, the more these mouthpieces claim Saddam's resistance has lost all and desperately has resorted to attacking NGOs, government embassies and religious targets the more likely it is that the Saddam resistance will revert back to killing more American soldiers, as we've seen today. What'll come tomorrow? And the next day? More and more folks should begin to realize that the Bush-Cheney doublespeak is killing us, and in more ways than one!

To: E. T. who wrote (485148)	11/2/2003 9:54:44 AM
From: Arthur Radley	Respond to of 769670

It is amazing how Fox News likes to spin and lie to the wingers. For example this is taken from the New York Times report this morning on the shooting down of the Chinook helicopter.. "A witness in Falluja, Dawoud Suleiman, said: "There were two American helicopters. They fired a missile at one and missed, and then they hit the other, which crashed and caught fire." Some Iraqis were jubilant. "The Americans are pigs. We will hold a celebration because this helicopter went down -- a big celebration," said wheat farmer Saadoun Jaralla near the crash site. "The Americans are enemies of mankind." U.S. troops told journalists to leave the area and confiscated their film as another military medical helicopter with a red cross sign on its side landed, sending up clouds of dust from the dry scrubland. It was the third time guerrillas had brought down a U.S. military helicopter since U.S. President George W. Bush declared major combat over in Iraq on May 1. Bush himself had vowed on Saturday to stand firm and said leaving Iraq prematurely would strengthen the "terrorists" who he blamed for recent deadly suicide attacks. DANCING ON THE WRECKAGE In Falluja, residents said a roadside bomb had hit a convoy of U.S. soldiers in civilian vehicles. At least one vehicle was ablaze at the scene, where crowds gathered to celebrate and shout anti-U.S. slogans. Television pictures showed a gleeful youth wearing a U.S. Army helmet. Others danced on wreckage. Before the helicopter attack, 123 U.S. soldiers had died in hostilities in Iraq in the past six months, including one killed by an overnight roadside bomb blast in Baghdad and two killed by a bomb in the northern city of Mosul the day before." And this is how Fox News reported the incident: Fox reporter said.. 1) Local farmers went out to the site of the downing to HELP rescue the soldiers, but they were kept back by another helicopter flying over the area. (I guess that is why the film was confiscated so they wouldn't have any record as to what Iraqi's they would pay for their rescue efforts...like those that helped with saving all those goods and materials in the recent train wreck where those "helpers" stole all these US supplies.) 2) But then Fox had a Repub Congressman on and unbelievably this guy said this was the FIRST helicopter the Iraqis had shot down and that everything was just "hucky dorry" in Iraq with our efforts there. Yep! As Codpiece complains...the news is being filtered and Fox is telling how it really is.. NOT!!!!!!!!!!