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To: pezz who wrote (40677)	11/2/2003 8:53:41 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

The only way to buy American products would be to import Chinese people to the US to make the products, in say, Montana or Wyoming. Which is obvioulsy not an option for Americans. Hence the products would continue to be made in China and imported. Importing Chinese people to develop the US is not new. "In February, 1865, the Central Pacific decided to try a new labor pool. Charles Crocker, chief of construction persuaded his company to employ Chinese immigrants, arguing that the people who build the Great Wall of China and invented gunpowder could certainly build a railroad." cprr.org Of course everyone thinks it was John Wayne. At least Jack Chan -albeit a fellow country man of Jay- can make Hollywood movies :-)

To: pezz who wrote (40677)	11/2/2003 9:47:30 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 74559

OHO guy's it seems that no one gets it. Sad situation of affairs

To: pezz who wrote (40677)	11/2/2003 9:53:32 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Well .... this tread really made me thinking not to touch anything from China only if I have no choice.

To: pezz who wrote (40677)	11/2/2003 11:21:04 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello Pezz, <<with similar raw materials and workmanship the Chinese products will be considerably cheaper>> ... by my investigation, it turns out that even when the US manufacturer and the Chinese manufacturer uses the same exact raw material sourced from a third country, the raw material ends up cheaper by the time it arrives in any US-owned factory in China than in any Chinese-owned US factory ;0) This above strangeness is not because the Chinese government subsidizes the US-owned Chinese factory and the US government is not supporting the Chinese-owned US factory, but because the middlemen between the raw material source (i.e. Swedish specialty tool steel) and the factories in the US are more expensive and less productive (value for cost) than the middlemen involved in China-based and whomever owned productions. This is why the likes of Haim are out of fantastic solutions and so are reaching for nukes, all in the name of encouraging free choice and democracy ;0) Chugs, Jay