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To: Berry Picker who wrote (35843)	11/4/2003 11:19:18 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Looks like you are preaching to the choir around here. #$Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheavesssssss. ~:<)

To: Berry Picker who wrote (35843)	11/12/2003 6:59:37 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christ commanded that “those who hear’ should “Love” even their enemies. generally , that which you hate & also despise in another , is a prominent reflection of something residing in your own human charactor. So disposing of them in any violent fashion or continuously plotting against them is a moot pursuit ...if one doesn't first learn to control that which you hate in yourself . Of course in those ancient times there was much to set men apart , yet much too that had brought men together in discussion and philosophy and arts .(there were also many well intentioned , "god-intoxicated" martyrs too , btw) In the beginning , if you believe in such fantasy ...a "God" gave man dominion over the land and the creatures of the earth ...but not necessarily dominion over himself ...which appartently has to be learned but is often brought out thru an innate inspiration coming within for certain individuals of us . Tribes rarely as a whole make it into heaven as a group , but if it made them feel better about themselves...then go ahead and bang your tin drum loudly and often. <G> Just like childhood...and if you dare to open other books of God of which there are thousands now we have in Libraries world over , you will discover much truth and beauty . Shakespear is always nice ...easily rivals Paul and was written originally in english. Rumi would be another to study and there are just thousands of writings out there .

To: Berry Picker who wrote (35843)	11/12/2003 8:15:34 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I will remind you that there are passages where Jesus also commands his diciples to bring certain members of other tribes before him and slay them ....right after the sermon on the mount I believe. But that's OK , and can be intrerpreted also in a way that's flattering. As a parralel to the great Indian epic poem of Krishna (Christ-God) and the prince Arjuna on the battlefield , and Krishna does command him to feel the prescence of the eternal in the face of killing his relatives in combat ...then to realize all is good and eternal and as it should be ...if one is seeing it right ! Called the "Song of God" from 340BC or the Bhagavad-Gita Ajuna's Vision of Krishna as Vishna The great Indian epic Mahabharata contains the famous book called the Bhagavad-Gita, or "Song of God". It is a story about Prince Arjuna, a royal archer. It takes place on the day he goes to war. In his chariot rides Lord Krishna, god of the transcendental self. As Arjuna faces his foe in battle, he realizes they are his extended family and becomes overwhelmed with grief. Arjuna seeks guidance from God, and Krishna reveals himself in his multi-dimensional form. In book eleven of the Bhagavad-Gita Arjuna receives the vision of the light body as the universal transcendental self. 12 If thousands of suns were in the sky at once, it might resemble the shining glory of the Supreme Being [mahatman]. 13 Then Arjuna saw the entire universe, infinitely divided, but as one deity in a universal form. 14 Overwhelmed and awe-struck, hair standing on end, Arjuna bowed his head to the Shining One, and folded his hands to pray. 15 Arjuna said: "Lord Krishna, I see that you are hierarchy of gods. I see Brahma on his lotus-throne, the celestial serpent, and all of the teachers." 16 "I see countless beings in your universal form. They appear unlimited. There is no beginning, middle, or end that I can see." 17 "You have brilliant disks, glowing spears and shining crowns all around. It’s hard to see through the blazing fire of infinite sunlight." BHAGAVAD-GITA 11:12-17 (The Universal Form)<font size=4> Krishna is the enjoyer. He is in everything. He is the light of the higher-self that knows all and experiences all. Everywhere you look he has millions of eyes. Arjuna is stunned. He receives the initiation of sacred fire. He sees the living light of God. He faces the shocking fact that there is only one higher-self expressing in all things.<font size=2> Is Krishna a God, a human light traveler, or both? Is Arjuna just a warrior, or your critical mind at battle with the world around it? You’ll have to find the answer for yourself. Only initiates of fire know for sure.