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To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (485688)	11/3/2003 10:47:22 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Dems don't need any southern states to win. Except Florida maybe. If they win Florida it's all over. Arkansas is in play this time because of Wes Clark. Another state they want to take back is New Hampshire. Otherwise just hang onto the states Gore won plus one more and it's all over for Bush. I think the Bush re-election plan was wo win in Iraq the move onto Iran this coming year and steal the election that way. Not gonna happen now. Now Bushies will have to run on their economy, but as we've seen, the so-called recovery is standing on the legs of massive debt and runaway jobs to foreign countries.

To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (485688)	11/3/2003 10:56:28 AM
From: jackhach	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The DEMS should abandon the Dixiecrats (Southern white men) and give only marginal attention to the electoral college vote. The DEMS simply need to focus on where the people live -- not cows or sheep. If they take California and New York they are half way there anyway. Texas is the only BIG STATE that DEMS have consistent trouble with. Wyoming, Vermont & Nebraska are genuine American states but should NOT be given voting rights (as in the min 3) for their livestock and/or pine trees. Just the same -- Gore won, but lost, because he moved too far to the center (where everyone crowds in) and essentially allowed Nadar to take anywhere from 2 to 8% of a many state's popular vote. Clinton had to bail him out in the final hours and bring back in a few of Nader's progressives. Dean is winning, who I don't particularly like, because he is smart enough to realize that there is no merit in the middle. The middle simply means you have no solid convictions -- and voters know it. Those in the middle are simply "pocketbook" voters. They vote out of personal convenience & circumstance and hold little/no deep-rooted political ideology. Their politics tend to be very personal -- not egalitarian. If the economy is going good they vote the incumbant if not they vote for the challenger on balance. Also, the DEMS must emphasize Christianity in its purest sense -- and focus on the "teachings of Christ" which is mainly non-judgementalism, compassion, and tolerance. The FAR RIGHT (ironically) de-emphasises these basic Christian canons due to their even-stronger held political motives. They also need to re-localize. That is they need to go back to the local, small employer, church, and school system and get themselves back where they started. On a range of 1 to 10 with extreme liberalism being a 10 (San Fran femi-Nazis) and extreme right-wing idelogy (Georgian, neocon Evengelicals) being a 1 -- the DEMS should try to hang around at a solid 7, momentary 8's -- but not at 5 or at an even worse 10. -JH