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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (30983)	11/3/2003 3:24:34 PM
From: Rick Faurot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Coalition spokesman: Mortars hit Baghdad One U.S. soldier killed in Tikrit, another attack in Uja Monday, November 3, 2003 Posted: 1:57 PM EST (1857 GMT) BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A day after a U.S. Army helicopter crashed in a suspected shoot-down, killing 16 soldiers, two separate attacks were made Monday against U.S. troops in Iraq, a military spokesman said. Three or four mortars slammed into central Baghdad on Monday evening, a coalition military spokesman told CNN. The spokesman declined to say where the mortars struck, but the blasts, which hit shortly after 9 p.m. (1 p.m. EST), shook the ground at the Palestine Hotel, where many journalists are based. Initial reports indicated the sound of the blasts came from the vicinity of one of Saddam Hussein's palace complexes now occupied by the U.S.-backed Coalition Provisional Authority. To the north of the capital, in Tikrit, ancestral homeland of ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, a 4th Infantry Division U.S. soldier was killed Monday afternoon when his vehicle hit a mine, a U.S. military spokesperson said. Just outside the Iraqi town of Uja, the spokesman said, a 4th Infantry Division patrol came under attack by small-arms fire Monday evening. No casualties were reported in that incident.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (30983)	11/5/2003 9:08:08 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Clark, in S.F., lambastes Bush policy on Iraq sfgate.com <<...Clark, a four-star Army general from Little Rock, Ark., and an early front-runner for the Democratic nomination in some polls, spoke to 700 people at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco during a luncheon organized by the Bar Association of San Francisco. He said the Iraq conflict had been "a long record of tragedy, deception, miscalculation and misdirection, by an administration that had its heart, and intent, to go after Saddam Hussein before it ever came into office." Clark said the United States had failed to shift enough power to international groups and the Iraqi Governing Council, inviting hatred toward Americans as an occupying force. "The only terrorists in Iraq are the ones that come in to attack us because we're there," he said. Clark received one of his loudest ovations when he criticized the administration for suggesting that war efforts were hampered by second- guessing in the United States. "Since when in a democracy is it unpatriotic to ask questions about your country's policies?" he said. "That's what I served 34 years in uniform to protect." Referring to anti-war rallies in San Francisco, he added, "I commend you." Outside the hotel, nearly 200 campaign supporters had signs and buttons that said things like, "A general not a cowboy," and repeated a mantra at the heart of Clark's campaign: that as the country deals with the threat of terrorism and the war in Iraq, he is more electable than other leading Democrats because of his military background. "I tend to agree with (Howard) Dean's policies, but I feel Clark is the one who can beat Bush," said Andro Hsu, a 27-year-old molecular biology Ph.D. student at UC Berkeley...>>