To: cnyndwllr who wrote (486507 ) 11/4/2003 2:30:54 PM From: Johannes Pilch Respond to of 769670 If I was successful in throwing a wide net over pansies, then I am certainly not interested in reeling it in. I merely wish the net to stay over them because they are good for nothing. As I have said previously, I do not reject the vet who may disagree with the tactical philosophy behind our entrance into Iraq. Many rational people may validly disagree over tactics. I am disgusted here because it is apparent to me that we don’t even share the same strategy. Heck, we don’t even share the same goal and we don't recognize common interests. Effectively, we are not countrymen. Rather than share the same goal, you whine against and falsely accuse an administration that really has attempted to defend your country. You actually do this while our soldiers are in the field, demoralizing them. It is nauseating. Here is the fact that all ungrateful wretches ought to consider: it is not because of you and your pathetic ilk that we have not been hit yet again by muslims. It is because of this administration. Bush has stopped many other terrorist attempts against us via the means he now employs in Iraq. I actually reject Bush’s approach in Iraq. I think he should chop heads. But lacking any evidence that the guy wants to abuse America or anyone else, I cannot in good conscience malign my leaders in the way the friggin pansies have maligned them. Unlike you, Bush continues to note the threat that even now continually hits us where we live. Unlike you, he does not dismiss the thousands of sudden deaths as “something that has already happened.” That is why, despite my disagreements with him, I support him and am nauseated by you. You have forgotten common interests. You probably never understood them. If you think pulling out of Iraq is a better way to go, then fine – but you must show how our interests are going to be protected by such action. It will not do to say crap like “because it will not make the terrorists mad at us.” That crap does not work because the terrorists were mad at us from the friggin’ beginning! You must keep this fact in your friggin’ mind – a thing you NEVER do. So… I support Bush and am willing to work with him, despite our differences. I reject you. When Bush declares we will not fail, I do not take it as a sign things are going badly. As Churchill demonstrated, saying such things can be an indicator that things are tough, that they are difficult, but that they do not warrant the friggin’ defeatist queer attitudes the pansies have been dragging through these forums since even before we entered Iraq. I suggest you reconsider your disgusting attitude and the meaning of encouragement. You actually sound as if you wish Bush to fail – and this is most nauseating. And stop all this crap about being concerned for our soldiers - as if pulling them out of Iraq will relieve them of the fear they now experience. At best, your "solution" is a short-term pansy bandage over a festering wound Bush wishes to heal at the core. Pulling soldiers out of Iraq is not going to remove them from fear. That is what you just cannot seem to get through your friggin’ skull. The damned war is here, fella. And here is the proof: You mention the “DC sniper” and the fear he caused as if it all happened in a vacuum. The DC Sniper is a friggin' muslim terrorist himself - and he terrorized America right friggin' here - not in damned Iraq - but right friggin' here. Moreover, your cavalier mention of him further suggests you no longer comprehend the scope of our American reality and that I cannot depend upon you as a fellow American to ever comprehend it. That sniper was made all the more frightening because he did his dirty deeds in post-911 America. The entire community thought of him in terms of 911 and wondered if he was from Al Quaeda. So if the total destruction of a national landmark, the slaughter of 4000 people, the significant destruction of the center of our military headquarters, the further repeated attempts to destroy other of our people and the slaughter by a muslim taking potshots at innocent people are not enough to help you acknowledge the reality of our war, then nothing will. But I cannot help but acknowledge it because unlike friggin' you, I have had the extreme misfortune of experiencing not only 911 but also the friggin' DC sniper! I was in the DC area when the sniper was murdering others, since I typically move to Virginia during its hunting season. So I lived in that fear for the entire friggin' time. I felt what you claim our soldiers now feel. And I was not even in Iraq, had never done anything to anyone that would warrant I feel such fear. Yet I experienced both the sniper attacks, and 911, at the hand of muslim terrorists, this, despite that I hadn't even lifted one foot toward Iraq. Indeed, America had not even invaded Iraq. Being a friggin’ pansy ain’ gonna save your ass, guy. We are going to have to fight whether we do it in Iraq or here. Bush thinks it is best to do it in Iraq, establishing a beachhead there. His goal is to protect his country. I disagree with his tactics and even with some of his strategy. But we share the same goal. So I support him. I reject you because, like virtually every single friggin’ leftist in America, you just don’t have a friggin’ clue about nothin'.