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To: kumar who wrote (118594)11/5/2003 12:10:14 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. what say you ?


I say NO. The Khmer Rouge were not fighting for anyone's freedom.



To: kumar who wrote (118594)11/5/2003 12:51:15 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 281500
 
<One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.>

No, actually, that was not the point I was making. I do not think Pol Pot or Stalin fought for freedom.

Again, my definition is: A patriot is anyone who fights to expel foreign soldiers from their nation. A quisling is anyone who helps a foreign army maintain its occupation.
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I used the word to describe, Hawkmoon incorrectly felt I was using the word to praise. I knew that mistake would be made (since the word "patriot" has such high emotional content). So I tried to make it clear I was not praising them by calling them patriots. In the same sentences I called Pol Pot and Stalin patriots, I also called them mass murderers.

We will never quell the insurgency in Iraq, if we don't understand what motivates it. The basic motivation, which unites all the disparate ideologies, is getting the foreign soldiers off their soil, and ending foreign control of their government. That is patriotism.



To: kumar who wrote (118594)11/5/2003 2:58:27 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. what say you

Nope.. not when they deliberately target civilian and humanitarian entities..

And NOT when their end game is to restore a brutal and genocidal regime (or worse)..

But that's not to claim that brutal terrorist acts haven't been committed by "patriots".. Even during our own revolutionary war, British sympathizers were harassed and killed by revolutionaries, usually in order to strip their property from them.

But the end result was NOT a totalitarian regime.

Hawk