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To: Lane3 who wrote (78638)11/5/2003 2:57:42 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
You are confusing several issues. I will try to sort them out.

1) Exception to save the life of the mother is your primary issue. PBA is when the baby is already through the birth canal. What exception are you thinking of that requires the PBA to save the life of the mother.

2) It is not required that a crippled mother be burdened with a baby that she is unable to care for. The mother can choose to give the baby up.

3) The scary prospect is a false dilemma.



To: Lane3 who wrote (78638)11/5/2003 5:46:29 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
The question is whether a pba is ever necessary to save the life of the mother. If the baby can be partially delivered, then I can't imagine the scenario where it can't be fully delivered and the umbilical cord cut and the baby now either lives or dies on its own. I can't imagine the situation where it's possible to deliver a baby's head but not its body. Doesn't compute for me. The baby has to be withdrawn from the mother's body after it's killed -- why can't it be withdrawn before it's killed?

Does anybody know whether there are cogent medical reasons why a PBA would ever be required, in preference to a complete birth, to protect the life of the mother?



To: Lane3 who wrote (78638)11/11/2003 5:16:09 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
My concern is that it doesn't not allow an exception for the health of the mother.

Exceptions for the health of the mother have been interpreted so broadly as to be very close to being exceptions for anyone who want's an exception. There is little point in having a law with such an exception. You might as well have no law. It would be more honest and the practical effect is almost the same.

Tim