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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (487678)11/5/2003 5:35:47 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
There was no need to go any farther than I did, Shep. My purpose was not to get into the depths of biochemistry, but only to show a very basic reference to cell respiration pointing the the fact that when it ends, so does life.

I am no biochemist, but I do have the basics in mind and can learn anything if needed. Indeed, I can be a better whatever you are than you are currently. I only need a bit of time.

There was just no need to explain where ATP gets its nitrogen and phosphorus when the basic definition I gave for ATP would suffice in this context. You didn't ask for a treatise and had you asked for so unreasonable a thing I would have simply done what I did, to wit, referred you to a more detailed source.

Leftists... so unreasonable.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (487678)11/5/2003 7:12:36 PM
From: Selectric II  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
No, you're in over your head.

First you publish glucose with it's generic stoichiometric formula rather than the conventional chemical formula which tells one the structure. Reacting glucose (a hydrocarbon) with O2 will indeed yield CO2 and H20. Then in your next post you show oxidized glucose yielding ATP and were kind enough to provide its definition. But what is not explained is where ATP gets its' nitrogen and phosphorus in addition to the elements in the precursor glucose.

First, you failed to insert a grammatically necessary "comma" after the words, "First," and "formula," in the first sentence, and after "Then," "post," and "ATP," in the second sentence.

Second, you incorrectly inserted an apostrophe, "it's," (should be, "its") in the first sentence, and incorrectly inserted another apostrophe, "its'," (should also be, "its") in the fourth sentence.

People who mis-use apostrophes in "its," "it's," and "its'," bastardize the English language, and do a disservice to it and to its heritage. "Its," "it's," and its'," all have different meanings. The grammatical distinctions should have been taught to all Americans in high school, at the latest.

Third, it is improper to start a sentence with, "But," as you have done in the last sentence.

Finally, as to sentence meaning, I have to ask, how does one "publish glucose," and, moreover, with a formula? I thought one consumed glucose. I once spilled fruit juice on a paper I was writing. Does that qualify as "publishing glucose"? Similarly, what does, "reacting glucose" mean?

Given these failures, how were you allowed to advance to discussions involving glucose and ATP?



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (487678)11/5/2003 7:58:39 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 769670
 
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