To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (177605 ) 11/5/2003 7:48:23 PM From: Road Walker Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575181 Ten, re: All of these are big issues with the public. Politicians have to pick-n-choose, and the losers (namely the Democrats in this case) will always complain about the sacrifices made. Yep, the party out of power complains, the party in power extols. In the end, it's all marketing. Most decisions, are expedient, regardless of political labels. re: All they saw was the hundreds of dollars per car they had to fork over to an unpopular California government. No one cared that the increase in revenues helped to "balance" the budget in 2003. Frankly, I have a hard time projecting the motivation of California voters to the rest of the country. California/Ohio = Black/White. re: I think whoever becomes the Democratic nominee in the 2004 campaign is going to be dinged on his willingness to raise taxes. This is why I think voters are less concerned about the federal deficit and more concerned with their own wallets. Of course deficits matter, as long as someone else (the "rich," for example) pays for it. I disagree, and I sincerely hope I'm right. California got itself in their mess because they thought they could pass any wacko measure, and nobody ever had to pay for it. I hope (pray?) the rest of the country doesn't think like that. Bush is the national "Grey Davis" Cal politician, cut taxes, increase discretionary spending (my apology the the literal semantics freaks on this thread); building a "don't worry, be happy" credit card government. I don't think that flies in middle America, I don't think that flies with real conservatives, or liberals for that matter. But bottom line, I think Iraq is Bush's Waterloo. If it continues to break bad, he's toast. John