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To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (266237)	11/6/2003 10:09:46 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

spritual budha Mary Magdalene Missed the television show that postured Mary M as wife of Jesus......though that is a rather common belief among many.....and found in many "banned" heretical gospels as well as several legends---- (somewhere in my file cabinet is a page or two about another female said to be the wife of Jesus----can't find it right now and can't remember her name, but it wasn't Mary M....plus, the legend was that she/the wife/had a child and further that the child was in reality the HOLY GRAIL------though Mary M figured in some holy grail stories-----------though all historical evidence points to the Holy Grail being of Pagan origin which passed into Islamic tradition before it became xtianized sometime in the 12th century ------probably as a result of cross-pollution from the crusades----that one way or another got more pollution and alteration because of the presence of the Knights Templar arising out of the crusades),,,, But back to MM...the fact is: the story of MM in the New Testament (as well as recently discovered Gnostic gospels, where she is ALL-IMPORTANT---even has her own gospel)is tied in with the fact that patriarchial religions were based upon earlier matriarchial religions------things were swiped and altered to put the male forward and the female in the background----one couldn't just throw out the "old" religion entirely----nothing changes "on a dime"....to turn everything upside down in a short time would have been so disruptive and undoubtedly proved a failure----old allegiances have a strong pull, so men has to wean the followers away from the old unto the new and that took generations of time............... In Babylon there existed the sacred goddess in a Triple form (guess where the trinity came from) of Mari-Anna-Ishtar....she was known as the Great Whore of Babylon (whore not carrying the baggage it does today---the debasement of the word came about as the men got control) and SHE WAS WORSHIPPED ALONG WITH HER SAVIOR SON......(incidentally, the Gnostic Gospel of Mary says that all three Marys of the canonical books were one and the same).....the Virgin and the Whore were confused for centuries in early christendom.....Pope Sergius in the 7th century began an annual procession ON THE DAY CELEBRATING THE NATIVITY OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN, and the procession went to an old roman temple of the prostitue goddess Libera...the pope changed the name to Santa Maria Maggiore: Most-Great Holy Mary or something like that.....and there is a gnostic poem that reads, "I am the first and the last. I am the honored and the scorned. I am the whore and the holy one." The name Magdalene according to biblical scholars mean "she of the temple tower"...and must refer to the Jerusalem Temple which had triple towers representing the triple diety....one of the towers was named Mariamne, an incarnation of the goddess Mari....the same mariamne, Miriam, or mary that took joseph for her lover----and how easily it is to become sidetracked, as in following the story of joseph (Mark never mentions Joseph----he says Jesus is the "son of mary"-----it's matthew who lays out all the 'begats' to tie joseph somehow to long dead patriarchs of the jewish faith----though after all that, it is then said Mary is a virgin so god is the daddy and joe had nothing to do with it anyway....however there are legends galore about how joseph was chosen for mary and they all deal with the "fertility of his rod"....fertile rods belonging to men were common in middle eastern myths----sometimes their penis was symbolically represented by a wooden rod which would be placed on the altar of the goddess and the chosen male would be known by having his wooden rod suddenly burst into bloom)............anyway, back to MM.......you will note that NO MEN attended the tomb of Jesus----this is a dead giveaway that the creators of the myth of Jesus were borrowing heavily from earlier female myths (and the fact that Magdalene means 'she of the temple tower' would indicate that even at the time appointed for Jesus birth there existed still a female based religion in competition with not yet dominant male religions)------the reason there were no men at the tomb was because men WERE BARRED FROM THE CENTRAL MYSTERIES OF THE GODDESS....priestesses always announced the successful conclusion of rites and the resurrection of the savior.....note that in Luke the apostles knew nothing of the resurrection until told about it by the women----in fact they didn't know a RESURRECTION WAS TO BE EXPECTED...."They knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead" (John 20:9) Mari-Ishtar, the great whore annointed (Christened---christ means: the annointed one) her doomed god when he went into the underworld after which he would rise again according to her bidding.......(there was a whole transitional time spent in developing our current myths----one of the stages was for the goddess as represented by the head priestess to marry the man chosen to be "king"/"savior" and who would then as king rule in the name of the goddess----alas, blood had to be shed by the man/king to fertilize and bring forth new life----so after a reasonable time as king, the king was killed (at first the term of office was a year, but later it continued to expand until it became 12 and eventually it was dispensed with entirely and it was achieved by myth and not fact----but there was a time when the chosen king/savior was put to death---and at that time the priestess annointed him----the dead king was said to descend to the underworld----and then to be resurrected by the goddess-----naturally, he was never seen by men---only priestesses who swore to his resurrection and then gave testimony that he had entered a "higher state"and departed from us mortals....and after a reasonable time, the priestess chose another man to serve as king/savior who would shed his blood to give us life.....and the whole idea of the need to shed blood derived from earlier beliefs about how life came into being-------religion was the beginning of science/tht is an effort to explain----when it came to how and whence life came from it was noted that women passed through three stages----- virgin, mother, crone or menupausal----so there we have young girls walking around flat chested and slimmed hipped, then one day they begin to bleed monthly and their breasts grow and their hips widen----then after awhile they quit bleeding---and their bellies grow----and one day there is new life----natch when no one understands about sperm and eggs, the explanation is offered that blood is life/and that when the female stops bleeding and her belly grows what is happening is the blood is coagulating into new life-------------so that if men are ever to replace women in providing life, they have to shed blood to do it------a couple of thousand years pass and savior god myths (attis/tammuz/jesus, and a few dozen others, all local variations of the same myth put together to give men control of religion) develop wherein a savior is miraculously born/eventually SUFFERS AND DIES and incidentally bleeds/and that death is god's way of giving US EVERLASTING LIFE....PRETTY NEAT, huh?) And because of such myths we wage wars over whose god is real and whose god is false-----when they are all false. Who said homosapien means "thinking man"? Check out the name TAMMUZ on the net someday-----a god in the area of Israel who predated Jesus and who Jesus later copied nearly his entire life story from----e.g. born in Bethlehem----as Bethlehem was a town of bread and if one is to be "bread" as in "take, eat, this is my body", why it helps to be born in a bakery....anyway Tammuz was annointed, rose again, etc..... And in the "approved" gospels it says in Matthew that Jesus himself states that Mary M annointed him for his burial...and xtian art for centuries used the christening vase of oil as the ubiquitous symbol of Mary M........ anyway, all the three great religions coming out of the middle east still retained elements of the old female centered religions within themselves....as in Lilith in one of the two versions of genesis---lilith who refused to be an inferior to adam and instead left-----making the creation of eve necessary-------and I love that there are some legends that say lilith snuck back into eden and took eve as her lesbian lover.... also check out Sarah---originally she was the maternal goddess of the "abraham" tribe before she was demoted to his wife........(and sarah as goddess and as name was derived from from Sara-Kali of the indian subcontinent)..... In Islam----check out Shiite lore-----Fatima was the queen of heaven who was reduced to being Mohammed's daughter----but the shiites trace their legitimacy from her in an oddball way....saying mohammed's son-in-law married to Fatima was the true heir to leadership of the muslim world when mohammed passed from the scene.....and the KORAN means the "word of Kore" (kore or Q're) words attributed to Mohammed are pasted atop the earlier words attributed to Kore----with a significant shift in gender dominance...... Well, got to move along...always fun to meander down the alley wherein religions emerged............. A/j ===== "For every complex problem, there is a simple, easy to understand, incorrect answer." (Physiologist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi)