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To: Alomex who wrote (159622)	11/6/2003 11:28:32 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 164684

That sounds a lot like Texas to me.

To: Alomex who wrote (159622)	11/7/2003 12:07:04 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 164684

Actually, Al, the "non-bubba vote" was never evenly split between the parties. Until the 1980s, most elections (for state and local offices) in the south were decided in the primaries - specifically, the Democratic Party's primary. For many offices, there was no GOP candidate. Because of that, many in the south tended to vote straight party tickets in the general elections. Everyone was a Democrat because for all practical purposes, that was the only party around. A republican running for president, then, would first have to create a political base from scratch with little or no local party infrastructure. He'd then have to break the inertia - the habit and ease of pulling the lever for the straight party ticket. Fat chance when all the local pols were Dems telling them to vote for their guy. And though the GOP's disappearance from the south may have come during reconstruction, much of the loyalty to the Democratic Party this century was the result of FDR, not lingering anti-north or racial bitterness. Zell Miller is a prime example of that. Alabama, BTW, was also always heavily unionized, so there's another tie to the Dems. In any case, contrary to what you and many others think, the Dems' strength in the south the last 50-60 years is not the result of southerners not being able to get over losing the civil war. Likewise, southerners' shift toward the GOP is not the result of the GOP catering to Bubbas with rebel flags on their trucks. BTW, you might be interested in knowing that the safest GOP seat in the Georgia delegation to the US House is the 6th district, the affluent northern suburbs of Atlanta where most of the people were not raised here, abortion and gun control are at the bottom of the pile as far as issues that decide elections, and the "flaggers" protesting over the rebel flag being removed from the state flag are seen as an annoying redneck fringe element and generally ignored. Doesn't exactly fit your stereotype, does it? PS: Dean's apology only showed he doesn't have a clue what he did wrong. He (and his Dem opponents) thought he owed an apology to blacks for mentioning the confederate flag and implying the Dems should appeal to racist Bubbas in order to win in the south. No, his offense is in his condescending, ignorant, bigotted attitude toward the south - his assumption that southern whites are a bunch of Bubbas, racist or not. He just doesn't get it and he probably never will. Neither do or will the rest of the slate, except (possibly) Edwards.