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To: stockman_scott who wrote (118947)11/8/2003 1:01:11 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
The one thing Saddam never offered was his own retirement. That alone could have averted the war, since it was Saddam and the nature of his regime that was the crux of the problem.

BTW, did you note that Saddam offered the US full control of Iraqi oil, and that didn't move the Bush administration?

How come, if the US was only after Iraqi oil, as you keep telling us? Surely taking the oil without a war would have been far more profitable?



To: stockman_scott who wrote (118947)11/8/2003 7:56:12 AM
From: Sig  Respond to of 281500
 
<<<The New York Times and Newsweek are reporting that the Bush administration rebuffed a last minute deal from Saddam Hussein to stop the invasion of Iraq. According to the reports, Iraqi representatives offered to give the U.S. rights to Iraqi oil, to hold elections in Iraq, to allow for an intensive search for weapons of mass destruction and to hand over an Iraqi man who was connected to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
Iraq also agreed to support the U.S. so-called war on terrorism and back any U.S.-written Middle East peace proposal. >>>

Thats nice:
1. Rights to Iraqi oil.The US was technically still at war with Iraq because of his failure to meet the UN Resolutions and was not participating in Iraqi oil contracts. Putting American dollars and people in Iraq would mean they were at risk if we decided to take action to enforce the Resolutions
2. To hold elections in Iraq: They already had elections in Iraq and Saddam won with 100% of the vote. A huge margin of victory.
3. To search for WMD's : The UN Inspectors had already spent months searching for the ( hidden) WMD's
4. One man involved in the 1993 bombing conducted 10 years before?
Saddam total offer:
He gives us one man in exchange for a US sponsored election which he wins. The useless UN inspections continue, and we get permission the participate in the Iraqi oil industry which would cause us to sacrifice American interests in the event of a War
Hard to turn that offer down !!

Sig



To: stockman_scott who wrote (118947)11/10/2003 3:38:00 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 281500
 
giving the U.S. rights to Iraqi oil
What does that mean?

Iraq also agreed to support the U.S. so-called war on terrorism and back any U.S.-written Middle East peace proposal.
Uh huh.

we the Iraqis, will let the Americans station several thousand weapons inspectors into Iraq, even hold free elections to avert a war.
WAIT A MINUTE! Saddam refused to step down to avert a war. Why would he allow free elections? If he ran and won, what could the US have done then?

The proposal was not followed up, not taken seriously, in part because there were sort of a lot of questions about who these characters were, particularly Mr. Hajj
As in "This guy's a plant."?

He goes to Dulles airport and then is detained by custom agents and FBI agents after they discover a Semi-automatic pistol and four stun guns in his luggage.- He says -- and he has failed to declare them.-
I always bring my automatic and stun guns to the airport, don't you?

The pentagon's account was that he was only let go because he was carrying a Liberian Diplomatic passport.
What would an Iraqi be doing with a Liberian diplomatic passport?

So that does raise some questions about Mr. Hajj and who he was and what his game was.-
Yeah. Just a little.