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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (490149)11/10/2003 2:27:55 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Respond to of 769670
 
Your sense of 'morality' appears rather constricted.....

It is all we have.

Really? Can you name one now?

I mean here that in micro it happens all the time that people die as a result of having nothing. In this case they form part of a system wherein some own resources and others don’t. The “haves” survive and the “have-nots” die. This is natural reality and none of us has any external responsibility to alter it to help anyone.

SOME revolutions are morally justified... just ask Thomas Jefferson.

(sigh) Jefferson supported the American revolt because the unalienable rights of Americans were being infringed, Buddy. In such cases revolt is justified. It is not justified simply because one owns nothing and others own everything.

WRONG AGAIN! I am merely measuring by death, destruction, and opportunity cost --- that which is foregone by less than adequate societies. Objective, factual, criteria --- no 'religion' necessary for the judgement.... just math.

Death is a reality of nature that no one is obligated to ameliorate, Buddy. That is the central point you fail to grasp. Merely because I honestly work to acquire as many resources as I can and end up with everything, and merely because you are about to die having nothing, obligates me in no way to keep you alive. That is just a natural fact. I have no objective obligation to your life at all, except not to intentionally destroy it.

Yeah, right, <G>. We ARE a part of nature. We build the world around us... so we are responsible for whatever we can control, for the choices we make.

My Buddy. Listen to this crap. It is meaningless! Pure religious horse manure! Listen to this crap: ‘We build the world around us, therefore we are responsible for whatever we can control.’ You say here nothing at all.

Fine.... Then you will not object if I call you some name that is demonstrably also not true.....

I absolutely would not care at all. Enjoy.