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To: The Philosopher who wrote (78909)	11/11/2003 7:14:45 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Gee, you really ARE on a "no need to accept consequences for your decisions" kick. No, I'm not. I just don't accept that it makes sense to do even more damage in the process of accepting responsibility. You never answered my question about whether you would keep your daughter from having plastic surgery if she drove drunk, got into an accident, and smashed her face. How about it? As for accepting consequences, it seems to me that those who would deny abortions would also be those who would recognize Saint Peter as a dispenser of consequences. There's no point in relying solely on earthly consequences, especially when that damages the innocent, the born innocent. Let Saint Peter sort it out.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (78909)	11/11/2003 10:05:13 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Any thoughts on this? Bill allows jury option in parental rights cases By Barrett Marson ARIZONA DAILY STAR PHOENIX - Accused of a crime? Twelve people decide your guilt or innocence. Hurt in a car accident? A jury of your peers says whether you get money in a lawsuit. The state alleges you are not a fit parent and wants to end your parental rights? You can only make your case to the judge. Those who say the state's welfare system is broken are offering numerous fixes. And one includes allowing a jury to determine whether a parent is fit. In the special legislative session under way, a Child Protective Services reform bill would allow parents the option of requesting a jury trial during a hearing on termination of parental rights. The proposal has support from both Democrats and Republicans and is likely to be included in the final legislation. If it's approved, some experts see two outcomes: There would be a new check on the state's powers, but parents would still be likely to lose their cases. <snip> azstarnet.com