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To: Road Walker who wrote (177861)11/10/2003 10:44:21 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577924
 
That Bush, he sure is lowering in the threat of terrorism. The early return from the "New American Century" are not particularly encouraging.

Sort of a case of "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't". He gets rid of Al Qaeda, and you're pissed because the remnants are harder to track. Had he not gotten rid of Al Qaeda, you'd be bitching about this huge terrorist organization that hasn't been touched.

I don't really doubt the report, but it is a positive sign that Al Qaeda is dismantled; the splinters will have to be chased down and killed one by one. In the meantime, their ability to strike us in our cities has been severely limited.

If you ask me Bush has done a damned good job.



To: Road Walker who wrote (177861)11/11/2003 12:34:21 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1577924
 
Posted on Mon, Nov. 10, 2003

Riyadh bombing part of escalating battle
By WARREN P. STROBEL
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The Saudi royal family is locked in an increasingly bloody, though largely unpublicized, battle with the al-Qaida terrorist network, according to Saudi and American officials.

The weekend bombing in Riyadh that killed 17 people was only the latest confrontation in a battle that has been growing more intense since last spring.

Eight days ago, in the sacred city of Mecca, Saudi security forces killed two suspected al-Qaida members, arrested six others and seized a large cache of arms. The weapons apparently were intended for attacks on members of the royal family during the holy month of Ramadan, a U.S. official said.

Since May, Saudi Arabia has arrested more than 300 people, killed or captured a half-dozen men thought to be al-Qaida's top operatives in the kingdom, and seized large quantities of arms.

"If body counts are a measure of success in the war on terror, they're way in the lead," said Chas W. Freeman, Jr., a former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

The escalating confrontation has been overshadowed largely by the U.S. war in neighboring Iraq. Saturday evening's explosion, hurriedly executed at a compound that houses few Westerners, was a symptom that a Saudi crackdown may be rattling al-Qaida, whose goal has always been the overthrow of the Saudi royal family.

"The main battlefield in the war against al-Qaida is right here," a senior Saudi official said by telephone from Riyadh.

"We are locked in a struggle with the terrorists. It's a daily struggle. We will win, there's no doubt in my mind," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who made a previously scheduled stop in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, on Sunday, told the Dubai-based television network al Arabiya, "It's quite clear to me that al-Qaida wants to take down the royal family and the government of Saudi Arabia."

U.S. and Saudi officials are eager to portray themselves as allies in the war on terrorism, though their once-close ties have been strained by what many U.S. officials say has been the reluctance of Saudi officials to crack down on Islamic fundamentalists inside Saudi Arabia.

Fifteen of the 19 hijackers in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were Saudis. Saudi Arabia provided less-than-full cooperation in the probe of the 1996 attack on Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen, and only just began a serious crackdown on terrorist financing.

Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, who was stripped of his Saudi citizenship because of his terrorist activities, has long called for the overthrow of the Saudi monarchy, which bases its legitimacy on its custody over Muslim holy places. Bin Laden accuses the royal family of being corrupt, too close to the West and straying from the tenets of true Islam.

Yet it was not until May 12, when car bombs in Riyadh killed 35 people, including eight Americans, that the Saudi government acknowledged the homegrown threat of the armed militants.

Before then, the Saudis insisted they had taken care of the problem. "It turns out (they) haven't," said F. Gregory Gause, director of Middle East studies at the University of Vermont.

Since then, "the Saudis have been much more pro-active in terms of their anti-terrorism efforts," particularly on al-Qaida financing and the use of Islamic charities to fund terrorist activity, said Juan Zarate, deputy assistant Treasury secretary for terrorist financing and financial crime.

miami.com



To: Road Walker who wrote (177861)11/11/2003 1:44:13 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1577924
 
<font color=green>John, an interesting article by a well known Muslim writer; I had to read it for my class.<font color=black>

ted

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My fatwa on the fanatics

Ziauddin Sardar
Sunday September 23, 2001
The Observer

The magnitude of the terrorist attack on America has forced Muslims to take a critical look at themselves. Why have we repeatedly turned a blind eye to the evil within our societies? Why have we allowed the sacred terms of Islam, such as fatwa and jihad, to be hijacked by obscurantist, fanatic extremists?

Muslims are quick to note the double standards of America - its support for despotic regimes, its partiality towards Israel, and the covert operations that have undermined democratic movements in the Muslim world. But we seldom question our own double standards.
For example, Muslims are proud that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West. Evangelical Muslims, from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan, happily spread their constricted interpretations of Islam. But Christian missionaries in Muslim countries are another matter. They have to be banned or imprisoned. Those who burn effigies of President Bush will be first in the queue for an American visa.

The psychotic young men, members of such extremist organisations as Al-Muhajiroun and 'Supporters of Sharia', shouting fascist obscenities outside the Pakistan Embassy, are enjoying the fruits of Western freedom of expression. Their declared aim is to establish 'Islamic states'. But in any self-proclaimed Islamic state, they would be ruthlessly silenced.

This is not the first time concerned Muslims have raised such questions. But we have been forced to ignore them for two main reasons. In a world where it is always open season for prejudice and discrimination on Muslims and Islam, our main task has seemed to be to defend Islam.

The other reason concerns Ummah, the global Muslim community. We have to highlight, the argument goes, the despair and suffering of the Muslim people - their poverty and plight as refugees and the horror of war-torn societies.


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We must also reclaim a more balanced view of Islamic terms like fatwa. A fatwa is simply a legal opinion based on religious reasoning. It is the opinion of one individual and is binding on only the person who gives it. But, since the Rushdie affair, it has come to be associated in the West solely with a death sentence. Now that Islam has become beset with the fatwa culture, it becomes necessary for moderate voices to issue their own fatwas.

So, let me take the first step. To Muslims everywhere I issue this fatwa: any Muslim involved in the planning, financing, training, recruiting, support or harbouring of those who commit acts of indiscriminate violence against persons or the apparatus or infrastructure of states is guilty of terror and no part of the Ummah. It is the duty of every Muslim to spare no effort in hunting down, apprehending and bringing such criminals to justice.

If you see something reprehensible, said the Prophet Muhammad then change it with your hand; if you are not capable of that then use your tongue (speak out against it); and if you are not capable of that then detest it in your heart.

The silent Muslim majority must now become vocal. The rest of the world could help by adopting a more balanced tone. The rhetoric that paints America as a personification of innocence and goodness, a god-like power that can do no wrong, not only undermines the new shift but threatens to foreclose all our futures.

Ziauddin Sardar is a leading Muslim writer

observer.guardian.co.uk



To: Road Walker who wrote (177861)11/11/2003 2:30:02 PM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577924
 
The Names They Still Won't Mention

newsday.com

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