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To: Chas. who wrote (119223)11/11/2003 1:23:49 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Respond to of 281500
 
you might underestimate the resentment among Saudi citizens
their standard of living (income) has dropped over 60% since 1980
they have huge unemployment, over 20%

princes hire Pakistanis, Philipinos, Egyptians
not locals

local schools are essentially fundamentalist breeding grounds
extortion of money from royals is commonplace
charitable agencies are widespread, gathering money

Wahabbis are gaining huge ground, disagree with you
you vastly underestimate, I believe
as I said before, the entire USA will miscalculate here

/ jim



To: Chas. who wrote (119223)11/11/2003 2:06:04 PM
From: GST  Respond to of 281500
 
The issue was never whether or not we should do something post 9/11 -- the issue was what is the best thing to do. What you seem to have trouble accepting is that invading Iraq was neither the only option available nor the wisest course of action to improve the national security of the United States. The odds of a positive outcome along the lines the necocons projected have been shown for what they are: ideological fantasy. Now we have to come back to reality and make plans that will achieve what we want, and what we want is national security for the United States first and improvement in the middle east so far as that can be achieved without seriously breaching our own security interests.