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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (119300)11/12/2003 3:17:55 PM
From: Win Smith  Respond to of 281500
 
I try to avoid "Zionist", not being up on the nuances of allowable usage. I doubt if the faithful are any more appreciative of my more usual use of "Israel" for the government and "the Israeli lobby" for the US representatives of that government's interests, but those terms at least seem more straightforward. I wouldn't touch the "Christian Zionist" thing.

I really ought to retire "neocon" too, my understanding is that the neocon foreign policy theorists aren't totally congruent with the broader movement. I doubt if the Perle / Wolfowitz / Feith / Bolton / Libby crowd particularly cares about the abortion wars (though I'm sure that's important to the "Christion Zionists"), and the broader neocon movement seems to have embraced the nation building / generational commitment / cultural crusade line in Iraq, while the FP wonks were, as near as I can tell, always of the "go in, install Chalabi, get out" school. Plus, Cheney and Rumfeld are by all indications more retro- than neo- , and I doubt the wonks could have carried the day on their own without Cheney & Rumfeld being in on the grand scheme from the beginning.

I've used "PNAC people" in the past, but I'm considering switching to the less opaque "Cheney / Rumsfeld inner circle". A little clumsy, but it does make a reasonable acronym.