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Politics : HOWARD DEAN -THE NEXT PRESIDENT? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/12/2003 12:51:57 PM
From: elpolvo  Respond to of 3079
 
scott-

i have an idea.

why don't we conduct a preliminary election?
we'll set up elections or caucuses in all 50 states
where people can vote for the candidate they'd like
to have run against the republican candidate in
the national presidential election in november 2004.

whoever receives the most votes will be nominated
as the democratic candidate to run in the general election.

we'll call it a "primary election" because it comes
before the general election. (note: the general election
is called "general" not because it means we're voting
to elect a general... it's because it's open to the
"general public" for the purpose of electing a president.)

this seems to me to be an excellent way to determine
who can garner more votes in an election. it doesn't
guarantee anything except that the person chosen is
the most "electable" democrat. doesn't "most electable"
mean the one who can garner the "most VOTES?"

if you have a better idea or plan please share it.

-elpolvo



To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/12/2003 4:26:08 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 3079
 
Scott,

Re: The New Republic --

As you may have noted, the email you directed me to was from the Editor of TNR. I heard the most scurrilous sort of rumor the other day. Some are claiming that TNR is Mossad's voice in America. Have you heard such a thing? Is this plausible? I had my first subscription to TNR in 1967. I found it to be useful in trying to understand the Viet Nam debacle. Today, I have much less respect for the publication. It seems to have become, like John Kerry, gullible to the persuasions of the liars in the neocon/fascism movement.

In direct response to Judis comments, my first thought is "who cares?" His opinion is simply not of interest to me. His mouthing of the wishes of the RNC does nothing to increase his stock in my eyes.



To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/12/2003 10:46:19 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3079
 
Thanks For That Scot.

Judis,Marshall and most of the DNC need convincing that Dean IS indeed " da man ".They all reflect on what has happened in the past,which is prudent and understandable, but fail to fully grasp the appeal Dean has.

Dean has only stumbled in areas of little consequence and at the hands of those who appear desperate, to the point of being " Republican Like " ,in their willingness to attack him on non-issues, and avoid facing him on the real issues of the day.

The fact that people of diverse backgrounds are willing to look beyond these minor , and I mean M-I-N-O-R, slips?, is testament to their support.

The DNC frontrunners (not Clark)tried to amBUSH his likely endorsement of these large and diversified unions by playing a race card against him.

It failed, and they look all the more desperate for it, to the point where Keery's team abandoned him, and other candidates may soon really begin to consider whether it is advisable to continue this Anti - Dean campaign going forward.

Now Judis and Marshall are both smart and well connected DNC supporters.Judis wrote an excellent article recently regarding Israel and the neo - cons that is required reading.IMO.MArshall is an excellent analyst and I read his stuff regularly ( when I have time ;( ).

Neither have conviction, and also convey doubt , on their early contentions here, meaning simply that they need to be convinced.

Can Dean do this?

We'll see " in the fullness of time "...<<<GGG>>>

I just won't buy this " McGovern " line.This NOT 1972, although there are similarities regarding the current Iraq situation.There are too many other realities exiting today that weren't present during that time to draw clear parralles.Also, The Nixon campaign exploited all of McGovern's weaknesses from his difficulty in selecting a vice presidential candidate, to his very left wing voting record, to his whiny voice.Dean has none of these qualities, the media has changed,and Bush’s credibility itself is in doubt by the majority.

Carl rove may want to lie to the American people and try to cast him as a lefty - loony,but the facts speak a different story, if people are still interested in facts, of course.

Anyway,George McGovern was a fine man, and even though he lost to politics itself at a different time,he remains in history as such :


George McGovern

A war hero, 22-year U.S. Congressman and 1972 Democratic presidential nominee, George McGovern will long be remembered for his courage in speaking out against U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, his friendship and respect for the common man, and his work on behalf of American farmers and hungry children throughout the world.

mcgovernlibrary.com

KC



To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/20/2003 12:13:00 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 3079
 
Scott,

You might enjoy this bit of video. Faux News interviews Wes Clark:

foxnews.com



To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/20/2003 12:24:27 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 3079
 
THE DAILY MIS-LEAD: Bush in the crosshairs --

misleader.org

November 19, 2003 | Daily Mislead Archive

Bush's SEC Chairman Negotiates Weak Settlement with Mutual Fund,
Ignoring Corporate Responsibility

Despite President Bush's strong support for corporate accountability, the
President's hand-picked Securities and Exchange Commission chairman, William
Donaldson, is coming under fire for negotiating a weak first settlement in the
burgeoning mutual funds scandal with the nation's fifth-largest fund.


President Bush's corporate responsibility bill, signed into law in July 2002, was
designed to address the wave of corporate scandals that had impacted markets,
beginning with Enron's collapse in December 2001. "The fundamentals of a free
market...require clear rules and confidence in basic fairness."1

The SEC settlement with Putnam Investments, announced last week, prompted
Massachusetts Commonwealth Secretary Bill Galvin to say, "It's clear that the
SEC is more interested in papering over wrongdoing than uncovering it."
(2)

Donaldson was nominated by President Bush to take over for Harvey L. Pitt,
who was forced to resign under pressure for perceived close ties to the
companies he was supposed to regulate. Bush said as he nominated him, "Bill
Donaldson will be a strong leader with a clear mission, to vigorously enforce our
nation's laws against corporate corruption and to uphold the highest standards of
integrity in the securities markets."3

Earlier this summer, Donaldson talked about improvements in corporate
responsibility, saying, "I think that our actions speak pretty loudly in terms of what
we've done. … I think that there is a confidence -- a building [investor]
confidence out there that the cop is on the beat." (4)

But Senate Banking Committee Chairman Richard Shelby said, "mutual fund
abuses simply did not receive adequate attention from the SEC." (5)

Testifying before Shelby's committee yesterday, Donaldson announces reforms of
mutual fund trading in the next few months.

The President has not yet commented publicly on the growing scandal, which has
thus far forced the resignation of several executives with large mutual funds and
resulted in millions of dollars in fines. (6)

Sources:

1.Bill Signing Ceremony, 7/30/02.
whitehouse.gov

2."2 Mutual Funds Move to Assure Wary Investors," New York Times, A1.

3.Presidential Personnel Announcement, 12/10/02.
whitehouse.gov

4.Press Briefing with William Donaldson and Assistant Attorney General Larry Thompson, Whitehouse.gov, 7/22/03.
whitehouse.gov

5."SEC, Under Fire, Outlines New Fund Rules," Reuters, 11/18/03.
nytimes.com

6."Funds under the microscope," MSNBC.com.
msnbc.com



To: stockman_scott who wrote (382)11/24/2003 4:37:54 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3079
 
THE NATION reviews Wes Clark's book "Winning Modern Wars".

thenation.com

A Soldier's Story by Frances FitzGerald

In the annals of American politics Winning Modern Wars is an unusual book. Written--by Clark himself--between April and September of this year, it proceeds from an analysis of the military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq to a comprehensive critique of Bush's war on terror and on his national security policy generally. Possibly some other modern presidential candidate wrote a book such as this just before entering the race, but offhand I can't think of one. Most of Clark's views about the general direction of US foreign policy will sound familiar, for most are shared by the other major Democratic contenders. However, this book is nothing like the goo usually served up in campaign literature, for he is also a very good writer: logical, lucid and concise. Moreover, he has much of interest to say about military operations and the relationship--or lack of it--between specific campaigns and the overall US security strategy. He is well qualified for the task.

Many Army officers believe that the only job worth having, in peacetime as in war, is commanding troops, and that those who spend a substantial part of their career doing anything else can't be real men or good officers. Clark has commanded troops. From 1969 to 1970 he served as a company commander in Vietnam, where he won a Silver Star for gallantry after being wounded in a skirmish. Later he commanded a tank battalion, an armored brigade and the First Cavalry Division. He also ran the National Training Center preparing troops for the Gulf War. Still, Clark has had problems with such officers. He is too much the intellectual for them, and at every turn in his career he took the opportunities offered to widen his horizons. He ended up with an inconvenient independence of mind.

Born in Chicago but raised in Arkansas by his mother and stepfather, a retired banker, Clark went through the public school system not far from Clinton's birthplace in Hope. Offered scholarships to a number of prestigious colleges, he chose West Point--apparently because of a swim coach and mentor who had served in World War II. In 1966 he graduated first in his class and went to Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship. After his tour in Vietnam, he returned to West Point to teach economics and political philosophy. Later he studied at the Army Command and General Staff College--and again graduated first in his class. Chosen in 1975 to be a White House Fellow, he worked for a year in the Office of Management and Budget, learning the ways of Washington. His subsequent assignments took him to Germany and then to NATO headquarters in Brussels. Along the way he held several staff jobs analyzing military performance in past conflicts. In one of them he helped draft the Army's account of its actions in the Gulf War. In 1994 Clark became director for strategic plans and policy on the Joint Staff in Washington and spent much of his time in shuttle diplomacy in the Balkans and acting as senior military negotiator at the Bosnia peace talks in Dayton the next year. He ended his career as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, having led NATO through its first war to the successful occupation of Kosovo. His determination to win that war and to stop Slobodan Milosevic's ethnic cleansing of the province made him enemies in the Pentagon. The Joint Chiefs did not consider the war a priority, and they resisted his urgent requests to make preparations for a ground attack to back up the bombing campaign. Clark was forced to retire three months early. His first book, Waging Modern War, is a memoir of the period and a revealing look at NATO and Pentagon politics.

Structurally, Winning Modern Wars parallels Clark's trajectory from being a retired four-star general and CNN's senior military analyst for the invasion this past spring to a Democratic contender for the presidency this fall. Yet there is method in his manner of proceeding from the specific to the general and from a stellar operation to its context and consequences.

Clark begins with a detailed critique of "Operation Iraqi Freedom," the campaign to take Baghdad. His account of the invasion is marvelously lucid, and the book is well worth reading just for that. For example, he explains why the Iraqi command made a critical error when, in a classical military move, it ordered the Republican Guard divisions deployed around Baghdad to head south and face the American attack. But he has an argument, and it is this: The invasion had been meticulously planned over the course of fourteen months, yet for a variety of reasons (some logistical, some diplomatic, some still obscure) the buildup in Kuwait was far from complete on March 20, when the troops were ordered into Iraq. American and British commanders moved in with only three division-size forces and two separate brigades. Later two more US Army brigades were committed to the fight, but the other units slated to join them did not deploy until afterward. Thus the brilliantly successful campaign to oust the Baathist regime was waged by an extremely small force. In Clark's view the victory demonstrated the effectiveness of the military transformation since the end of the cold war: that is, the integration of the services and the development of information technology and precision weapons. He believes the transformation permitted the United States to defeat Saddam's divisions more quickly and with far fewer American or Iraqi civilian casualties than would have been the case had George Bush Sr. decided to move on Baghdad in 1991.

On the other hand, the victory did not, he contends, vindicate Rumsfeld's view that the future of warfare lies entirely with small, agile ground forces and high-tech weaponry. To the contrary, he writes, the lessons taken from this campaign will be conservative. Yes, the forces assembled proved sufficient to defeat the badly equipped and badly led Iraqi divisions. But, as the unexpected resistance from Iraqi irregular forces showed, combat is one of the most unpredictable of human activities, and because lives are at stake, the whole idea of military planning is effectiveness, not efficiency. By skimping on forces the American command took unnecessary risks in battle--and it was unable to cope with the chaos that immediately followed the collapse of the Baathist regime.

Clark goes on to provide some answers to what has become a major question in recent months: Why was the planning for the post-Saddam period in Iraq so inadequate? In the first place, he points, as some journalists have, to the bureaucratic struggles within the Administration and to the rosy scenarios that went unchallenged among the top Pentagon civilians who eventually took charge of the enterprise. But he also points to more profound tendencies within the US government and Washington as a whole. The Army, he writes, has long resisted investing or engaging in peace operations, even though every recent conflict, from Panama to Kosovo, has required such operations to attain the desired objectives. One reason for this failure, he suggests, is that the Army's mandate and historic task has been to fight high-intensity wars. Another is that the military-industrial complex makes its money off high-tech weaponry and not off such things as language training or the development of skills to deal with policing and legal systems. Furthermore, the Republican-controlled Congresses of the 1990s could be counted upon to vote against anything that smacked of "nation-building." In the mid-1990s the Clinton Administration tried to create an interagency capability for dealing with failed states, such as Haiti and Somalia, but the effort never got very far, and the Bush Administration brushed it aside. Thus before the invasion there was no structure or organization within the US government with the expertise to plan for the future of Iraq--much less one with the resources to implement such a plan. Then, too, Clark writes, by going to war without international support and by refusing to cede any power over the political process afterward, Bush forfeited the help he might have received from other governments and from international organizations that had expertise and resources to contribute. The Army and the Iraqi people are now paying the price for these failures.

"All else being equal," Clark writes in conclusion, "the region and the Iraqi people were all better off with Saddam gone." But of course all else is not equal.

In the next section Clark takes on Bush's conduct of what he calls "the real war" on terror. The Administration, he acknowledges, has had considerable success in eliminating Al Qaeda's commanders, disrupting its networks and going after its financing. On the other hand, it has made some serious mistakes, and its approach has been too narrow to constitute an effective counterterrorism strategy. In Afghanistan, he writes, the Administration adopted much the same approach as it did in Iraq, and with comparable results. Its campaign to take Kabul and oust the Taliban was brilliantly conceived and executed, but the aim should have been not just to unseat the regime but to deliver a crippling blow to Al Qaeda, and the opportunity was missed. At the battle of Tora Bora in December 2001 and in Operation Anaconda the next spring, US forces and their Afghan allies failed to fix and destroy the massed Al Qaeda and Taliban forces. In the wake of the initial conflict, the United States simply did not have enough troops on the ground, and the Afghan tribes allowed Osama bin Laden and his allies to slip away. The Administration then failed to commit the resources necessary to stabilize the country and refused to permit its NATO allies to help out, except in Kabul. As a result, Al Qaeda and Taliban remnants were able to use the territory on either side of the Pakistani border to hide, to recruit and to mount a guerrilla war. The Administration was, of course, disinclined toward nation-building, but beyond that its focus even then was on Iraq, on an agenda much older than 9/11, and on a war that would "enlarge the problem [of terrorism] rather than to focus on its essence."

In Clark's view, another of the Administration's mistakes in "the real war" was to rely on a "floating coalition" of the willing rather than to go to the UN and to NATO to develop multilateral approaches. With a "floating coalition" the US government has had to wrestle with a hundred bilateral relationships, and as difficult as this is at the top, it is even more difficult at the bottom, where most of the work gets done, because even in Europe countries have very disparate antiterrorism laws. Yet another mistake the Administration has made, as he sees it, is to focus on terrorists and their financing rather than look to the roots of recruitment in repressive policies, lack of development and the spread of fundamentalist madrassas in countries like Pakistan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia--all American allies. Further, he writes, the Administration has not gone about curbing the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction effectively: It has not increased funding for securing the "loose nukes" in Russia, and until just recently it had done nothing about North Korea. In addition, Clark complains that homeland security has not been well managed: The Ashcroft approach has raised critical questions about civil liberties, and the Office of Homeland Security has failed to address key issues. At the very least, he says, the Administration should by now have come up with an agreed list of the facilities in the public and private sectors that require protection and an agreement on what the standards of protection should be. Iraq, in his view, has distracted the Administration's attention from all these things--and must for some time to come. In his opinion, a withdrawal that leaves Iraq in chaos, allows the return of the Baathist regime or permits the emergence of a radical Islamist state would do great damage to American security. He believes the United States should help the Iraqis form a representative government with political and economic freedoms--though how Washington is going to do this, he does not explain.

In his final chapter, Clark attacks the Administration's conception of American power and substitutes his own. Last April, he tells us, there was talk in Washington of Iraq as the first stepping stone to a new American empire. As the US armed forces marched on Baghdad, the perception was that the US military had achieved such a degree of superiority over all its rivals that Bush might fulfill his vision of liberating Iraq and transforming the whole of the Middle East under a Pax Americana. But the truth was that the US Army, the only force available, was not suited to this quasi-imperial vision: It was built for warfighting; it lacked staying power abroad and it lacked nation-building skills. Further, the American public had little taste for empire, and the international community had turned against the war. As it is, Clark writes, the Army has become dangerously overstretched, and US foreign policy dangerously dependent upon it. Clark sees the aggressive unilateralism of the Bush Administration as having roots that go back to the reaction to the cultural revolutions of the 1960s and to the withdrawal from Vietnam and the other foreign policy reverses of the 1970s. After 9/11 Bush tapped into this frustration, reinforced, as it was, with real fear and determination.

Perhaps this should not have surprised us. "Transforming frustration at home into action abroad has emerged as a pattern in democracies under stress," Clark observes. "It...happened in ancient Rome, in the Netherlands and in Britain. And like most distractions, it provided false reassurance and was followed by damaging consequences." In Clark's view, American power resides to a large degree in the "virtual empire" the United States constructed after World War II: that is, among other things, its network of economic and security arrangements, the leverage it had in international institutions and treaty regimes, plus the shared values and reservoir of trust, or "soft power," that permitted past Presidents to lead by persuasion. Clark's forceful book warns that the Bush Administration is undermining this virtual empire and at the same time imperiling the "hard power" Bush counts upon, the power of America's economy and armed forces.