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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (79036)	11/12/2003 1:19:25 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

Social research! Good thinking :-)

To: Rambi who wrote (79036)	11/12/2003 1:22:37 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You and Kholt will probably enjoy this : Pooh-Poohing the Purists, a Scholar Revels in Netspeak By ANNE EISENBERG of The New York Times ; December 13, 2001 THE future of the Internet isn't just commercial or technical. It's linguistic, too — at least in the eyes of Dr. David Crystal, an eminent Welsh authority on language and the producer of many scholarly volumes, including the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language. His new book on Internet communication was just released by Cambridge University Press. The book, "Language and the Internet," is an analysis of how discourse is evolving on the Internet in its sometimes rambunctious forms of e-mail, Web pages, chat rooms and virtual reality games. Dr. Crystal concludes that the Internet is not going to spawn a generation of illiterates, as a cursory look at any undergraduate's e-mail might suggest. On the contrary, he contends, it is developing into a splendid new medium that shows language users at their most inventive, adapting a variety of styles for a variety of purposes, some formal, some highly informal. "The Internet is Homo loquens at its best," Dr. Crystal said. "It shows language expanding richly in all sorts of directions." Dr. Crystal shifted from abbreviations like op. cit. and et alia to RUOK? (Are you O.K.?), CUL8R (See you later) and the expanding world of electronic text, and found in them not the death of English grammar and spelling as we know it, but the irresistible development of a new, powerful force. "A whole new medium of communication does not arrive very often in the history of the race," he said. True, the language of the Internet includes the ragtag discourse of smiley faces, goofy abbreviations and laissez-faire spelling, punctuation and syntax, he acknowledged. But if you focus on things like the absence of capitalization, you will miss the big picture. "The Internet is a genuine third medium of communication," Dr. Crystal said. "In the future it will probably be the main way we humans communicate." He sees computer-mediated discourse as the third cardinal event in language. "First we had speech — that was the real breakthrough," he said. "And then, about 10,000 years ago, writing." Now comes Internet-mediated language. "We've never had anything fundamentally different from speaking and writing," he said, "sharing in their properties, but doing something neither could possibly do." The new medium is different from writing in its immediacy and changeability, he said, and different from speech in its inability to provide pitch, rhythm, loudness and other voice cues. "Electronic texts simply aren't the same as other texts in their fluidity, simultaneity and availability on an indefinite number of machines," he said. "They do things the other media can't do." continued

To: Rambi who wrote (79036)	11/12/2003 1:25:45 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

Fun thread Subject 54407

To: Rambi who wrote (79036)	11/12/2003 1:39:08 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

that women, even if only subconsciously, like dominant aggressive men, the physically powerful ones, the one who is going to kill the tiger for her. And you wonder why guys act this way? Because it's what's required to perpetuate the human race. It's all YOUR fault. <g> And then I will start listening to country music. And that's bad? For a Texan????? SOCIAL RESEARCH! That was it. I was just trying to understand a society in which I feel more and more like an alien. And because you'll probably get a column out of it, so it'll make you money. Right? It was all financial. You didn't want to watch it, but you had to so you could keep Ammo in college. What a great mom, to sacrifice her integrity for the sake of her child!!