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To: Dan B. who wrote (491723)11/12/2003 8:32:59 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 769669
 
Dan, maybe I read something into it that he didn't intend, but I thought the tone of the column reflected a view that the "moderate" Islamic states were somehow not representative of Islam or that their "brand" of Islam was an exception, but that Islam in other states, and therefore the states and Muslims in them, was NOT consistent with democratic rule. The implication is that it is the religion, not the conditions of the people or the oppressive governments, that makes certain states a threat.

I disagree. It is the lack of freedom and democracy that creates the conditions for extremism (of various sorts) to thrive. It is the oppressive governments, trying to divert and redirect the anger of the people away from the true cause of their suffering and toward a new target for blame that gives rise to organized terror against the US and the West in general.

Remember, Iraq under most if not all of Saddam's reign was very much a secularly ruled state. Saddam, later in his rule, allied with radical Islam out of expediency - uniting against a "common enemy" - but he certainly never embraced it as his cause.

Finally, his quote from La Civilta Cattolica that all of Islamic history is of conquest and jihad against the Christian world is both telling and ironic. It is telling in that he obviously either doesn't know his history or chooses to lie about it, and it is ironic in that it comes from an Italian whose nation's renaissance helped awaken all of Europe from the dark ages, but which renaissance had its roots in the Islamic world, specifically in what is now Iraq.

Regards,
Bob

PS: There are plenty of people right here in the USA who "see our liberty as something corrupting to faith and morals and our culture as something they do not wish to [tolerate], but oppose as inimical to a healthy life on Earth and an impediment to an afterlife?"

PPS: While Indonesia does have a stable, non-threatening government, that nation is also home to large numbers of al Queda terrorists who ARE a threat to Westerners. Kind of blows his argument, IMO.