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To: D. Long who wrote (15999)	11/13/2003 4:04:54 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793623

Looks like Bush is in for a fun weekend in London. Sullivan. ___________________________________ From all reports, the hatred of George W. Bush is now at fever pitch in London. All sorts of vicious tyrants have met the Queen for state visits - but none will recieve the outpouring of hate that will await Bush. Heads up: this will be a big deal. Hundreds of thousands will likely turn up to protest; the capital city is on the verge of shutting down; there will be demonstrations in Trafalgar Square in which an effigy will be toppled in mimickry of the defeat of Saddam. All this is designed to make the demonstrators to feel good but also to show Americans that even their closest ally despises the president and wants him defeated, humiliated, removed. Even if it means supporting the forces of terrorism in the Middle East. That's how inflamed and irrational this has become. andrewsullivan.com

To: D. Long who wrote (15999)	11/13/2003 5:28:10 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793623

"He'll be back!" Never Say Nader Will Ralph Nader, the man who, depending on how you reckon, either did or didn't capsize Al Gore's campaign in 2000, run again in 2004? And, if he does, what impact will he will have on votes this time around? After three years under George Bush, even some Greens are cool to a 2004 Nader run. Nader's defining argument in 2000, that centrist Democrats and Republicans are effectively the same party, is looking a little shakier (see, among other evidence: the environment, the war on terror, John Ashcroft's Justice Department, the federal bench, massive tax cuts...) than it did back then, whatever grain of truth it still contains. Nader won't officially declare until the end of this year, but some say this is pure formality, that he'll be back, no question. Nader-watchers say he will soon announce the formation of a committee that will allow him to start raising money and gaining staff. But that doesn’t mean that Nader will bag an endorsement from the Green Party. Many Greens point out that the party is making valuable progress in smaller races throughout the country (for instance, a Green is in a run-off election for mayor of San Francisco)—and getting into large, "unwinnable" races like the presidential election just detracts from these efforts. There are currently about 175 Green office-holders throughout the country. REST AT motherjones.com