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To: philv who wrote (19614)	11/16/2003 1:21:34 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81130

Phil, I don't think it is possible to obtain accurate information. In fact, I don't think it ever was but the difference, for me at any rate, was that I was always on the side of the "cowboys" and I believed everything I was told (more or less) about the "crooks". Increasingly, and particularly after the events in Kosovo where the US armed the Albanian terrorists and fought on their side together with bin Laden, I began to mistrust more and more of Amerika's agenda, until now, I don't trust any of it. Likewise with Israel. In fact, unless I can see documentary proof to the contrary, I now believe that Al Qaeda is a US/Israeli "false-flag" operation which is designed to facilitate the "war against terrorism" and by this means expand the Amerikan Empire, especially in the oil-rich MidEast, and also enable Israel to permanently occupy Palestine and wherever else. So, when I hear that a bomb went off in Riyadh or in Istanbul my first reaction is that the US/Israel did this to promote hate against Muslims to further their agenda because I can see no other reason for it. Indeed, if it was really a fanatic Muslim terrorist organization which was responsible, then why should they kill innocent Muslims on Ramadan or else devout Jews in a community who had lived happily with Muslims for 500 years? It makes no sense and it just doesn't fit with logic. In the same way that nothing we were told about 9-11 makes sense or even the WMDs in Eyerak, which is yet more fabrication. Clearly, if their target was Americans, as we are always being told it is, then, as we have seen in Eyerak, it's not too hard to kill them or shoot down their helicopters. I agree about the mass media, nevertheless I do watch CNBC a great deal and also CNN. Perhaps I should emphasise that the video of the TV is on but not the audio. It's supposed to be good to have a "balanced" view on things although there probably isn't much much point to it when my mind has already been made up.

To: philv who wrote (19614)	11/16/2003 7:47:20 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81130

Phil > Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. This is the second time I read that expression today. And, strangely enough, both referred to the same thing. whatreallyhappened.com >>>READER: I really appreciate you as an information guide. But I have to say that lately your insistence that every act of terrorism against Jews was committed by Jews themselves seriously undermines your credibility. WRH: First, I said "Israel", not "Jews". Please do not be yet another one of those idiots who claims Israel speaks for and acts for all the world's Jewish people. Second, if you take a look around at the other sites, you will find I am not alone in suspecting this. And let's be honest, with the revelation that LBJ ordered a cover-up of the USS Liberty incident, Israel's history of dirty tricks has come back to haunt it yet again. You know the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME!" It is not biased to point to Israel's history of deception, it is accuracy. Israel plays dirty trick after dirty trick after dirty trick. Prudence and long experience demand skepticism. Israel has abused the world's trust too many times. And in the end, who benefits? Who gets to play victim yet again just when the world is starting to condemn the wall and while Israel openly defies both the Roadmap and UN Resolutions in Palestine? Take a look at this photo. whatreallyhappened.com These men were arrested for running a purported Al Qaeda cell in Palestine, but they turned out to be working for the Mossad. Therefore it is proven that at least some Al Qaeda are Mossad and that Israel is playing deception games, in keeping with the Mossad's own motto, "By way of deception, thou shalt do war". It is Israel that has a credibility problem. Nobody wants to be made a fool of yet again. <<<