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To: John Carragher who wrote (16481)11/17/2003 12:08:20 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793843
 
Looks like we are back to "light em up and let God sort em out" time. "Shock and Awe" is back in fashion.

November 17, 2003
U.S. Forces Kill Six in Raid of Hussein's Hometown
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS - New York Times

Filed at 9:46 a.m. ET

TIKRIT, Iraq (AP) -- In a show of force backed by tanks and mortars, U.S. forces assaulted dozens of suspected guerrilla positions in Saddam Hussein's hometown before dawn Monday, killing six alleged insurgents and capturing others, officials said.

U.S. forces fired a satellite-guided missile carrying a 500-pound warhead at a suspected insurgent sanctuary 10 miles south of Tikrit -- the second use in as many days of the powerful weapon amid a U.S. drive to intimidate the resistance.

In Baghdad, troops mounted their biggest-ever hunt for weapons and explosives in a middle-class Baghdad area, angering residents who said their small arms were needed to protect themselves in the crime-plagued capital.

The military also announced that soldiers in the city of Ramadi west of Baghdad arrested an organizer of the Fedayeen guerrillas responsible for bomb attacks and ambushes on U.S. forces. The suspect, Kazim Mohammed Faris, was a ``high value target,'' a military statement said.

Faced with a deteriorating security situation, the military in past days has reacted with massive show of force in central and northern Iraq. At the same time, the U.S.-led coalition has bowed to demands from Iraqi politicians and agreed to speed the transfer of power.

The new formula, announced Saturday by the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council, calls for a provisional, sovereign government to be established by June. However, France's foreign minister said in an interview published Monday in the French daily Le Croix that the plan still moves too slowly. Dominique de Villepin urged the Americans to have a provisional government in place by the end of 2003.

In Tikrit, U.S. forces carried out more than 38 attacks from Sunday night to early Monday, destroying 15 suspected safehouses, three training camps and 14 mortar firing points, said Lt. Col. William MacDonald, a spokesman of the 4th Infantry Division.

Six suspected Saddam loyalists were killed and 21 arrested, he said.

``Clearly, we're sending the message that we do have the ability to run operations across a wide area,'' said MacDonald. ``We have overwhelming combat power that we will utilize in order to go after groups and individuals who have been conducting anti-coalition activities.''

In Samara, three Iraqis who fired on American soldiers were killed in an ensuing clash Sunday night. In Muqdadiyah, two Iraqis fired a rocket-propelled grenade on U.S. soldiers on combat patrol aboard a Bradley fighting vehicle. The soldiers returned fire and killed the two, Macdonald said.

While troops have been targeting suspected insurgent targets, U.S. forces have also carried out dozens of raids aimed at apprehending suspects and seizing weapons and bomb-making materials.

One such ``cordon-and-search'' raid early Monday in Baghdad's middle-class Azamiyah district netted 21 suspects along with 30 Kalashnikov AK-47 automatic rifles, about a dozen shotguns and 10 handguns. Most suspects had violated a coalition rule allowing only one weapon -- a single AK-47 -- per house.

Some 2,000 troops of the 1st Armored Division -- backed by tanks, armored vehicles and low-flying helicopters took part in the nighttime raid, sealing off a 20-block area and searching every single building inside it.

Residents of the neighborhood next to the Tigris River were furious over the sweep. They said those arrested included men who had revolvers or bird guns that could not have presented a serious threat to the security of the occupying forces.

``Of course everybody has weapons,'' said Samir al-Hadith, an engineer who works in Saudi Arabia and had returned to Baghdad to check on his home. ``There are so many thieves nowadays. we have to defend our families.''

``Under Saddam Hussein there was much more security and we could own guns,'' he said.

Zuheir Ali, 26, was detained after troops found a snub-nose .38 Smith & Wesson revolver in his house along with an AK-47. They left the automatic rifle but confiscated the handgun.

``I don't understand this, we're not criminals, we only want to defend our homes from looters,'' Ali said.

Journalists accompanying the troops during the bitterly cold night were offered hot tea by several of the residents.

``But no tea for the soldiers,'' said Lamya Shaheen Ahmed who stood on the sidewalk with her mother and two sisters after troops had gone through their house.

In Tikrit, hundreds of U.S. troops in tanks and assault vehicles marched through the crowded downtown area Monday in a show of force intended to deliver a stern warning.

``They need to understand that it's more than just Humvees that will be used against the resistance and we will crush the resistance,'' said Lt. Col. Steven Russell, a battalion commander in the 4th Infantry Division.

Tikrit, about 120 miles north of Baghdad, is part of a region north and west of Baghdad dominated by Sunni Muslims and regarded as a hotbed of anti-American sentiment.

Meanwhile, a tape purportedly made by Saddam Hussein urged the rebels to escalate attacks against the occupation and ``agents brought by foreign armies'' -- an apparent reference to Iraqis supporting the coalition.

The CIA said it would review the tape, aired on Al-Arabiya television, for its authenticity.

``The evil ones now find themselves in crisis and this is God's will for them,'' the speaker on the tape said.

The top U.S. administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer dismissed the message.

``This is a voice from the wilderness here. This is a man who's followed by a small band of murderers, and they have no vision for the future of Iraq,'' Bremer told NBC's ``Today'' Monday. Saddam ``is around and we need to capture him or kill him, but he has no future here.''

The last purported tape from Saddam was aired on Arab television Sept. 17. The CIA has been unable to authenticate that recording, saying the audio quality is too poor.
nytimes.com



To: John Carragher who wrote (16481)11/17/2003 1:17:41 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793843
 
For you "O'Reilly" fans. Hey, I know you are out there!

Dean's angry lefties
risk blowing it all
Bill O'Reilly
New York Daily News - nydailynews.com
Monday, November 17th, 2003

Anger can be a terrific motivating force, and we are seeing that in the runup to next year's presidential campaign. The far left literally hates President Bush and is putting its money where its loathing is.
I believe Howard Dean is the most shocked man in America. He's leading the Democratic pack despite being a guy who supports gun ownership. The simple fact that he is vehemently against the Iraq war has caused the Bush haters to pour millions into his campaign. Do they know the NRA loves this guy?

They might, but they don't care. So intense is the displeasure with anything Bush that some committed liberals will support the person who attacks the President the hardest, which Dean has done.

But anger is a funny thing. Used sparingly, it can lead to positive change. But used constantly, it is destructive, and the far left's anger may, indeed, destroy the Democratic Party's chances of capturing the White House.

Even The New York Times, generally friendly to the left, realizes this, and in the last few weeks a few of its columnists have hinted that liberal angst should be tamped down. Americans are getting annoyed with defamation and over-the-top accusations. Even when there is some validity to charges, such as the Arnold Schwarzenegger-women exposition, Americans don't want a witch hunt or smear campaign.

Bush also realizes that the more the bomb-throwers bellow, the easier it will be for him to stake out "the voice of reason" territory. Thus, he is adopting the Muhammad Ali technique of rope-a-dope. He is laying back, letting the frenzied opposition flail away, knowing it will eventually exhaust itself and collapse in a heap. Most Americans are not ideologues and will soon find the fanatics tiresome.

The far left also is allowing the Bush administration to dismiss legitimate criticism over the tottering Iraq situation. By accusing Bush of lying about WMDs and Vice President Cheney of promoting war to help his business buddies, the accusers marginalize themselves. Unless there is direct proof of intentional deceit and wrongdoing, the charges become vicious propaganda, and many Americans tune out.

There are certainly legitimate questions about how the Bush administration could apparently be so wrong about WMDs and the violent aftermath of the formal war. But Bush can avoid addressing those questions if they are lost among irrational harangues by his opponents.

The far left also has another big problem. Even though it is driving the Democratic agenda now, its positions on a number of social issues are offensive to much of the country. All the polls say the majority of Americans oppose partial-birth abortion and want parent notification when their daughters become pregnant. Americans overwhelmingly want the Pledge of Allegiance to contain the words "under God." They do not want higher taxes for anybody or legalized narcotics.

The far left is on the wrong side of all of those issues, and therefore anyone associated with them has no chance to win the presidency. If Dean is nominated, he will lose even if Iraq falls apart. If Hillary Clinton or Al Gore jump in, they have no chance if they partner up with the ACLU.

So here's a tip: The country may not like what is happening in Iraq, the groping of women or a huge federal deficit. But what Americans like even less are fanatics who scorn America's traditions and mock any sense of fair play. And if you left-wingers are angry now, wait until you see what happens if you don't cool off: four more years.