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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (119930)11/18/2003 10:36:32 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<Then do you consider Bush's government a legitimate government?>

No, I don't consider it legitimate.

In a democracy, there are certain very basic principles which have to be followed:

1. one person one vote. The electoral college system violates this. In a close election in the U.S., you can have the absurd and un-democratic result (as in 2000) where one person gets the most votes, and the other guy wins.

2. The rule of law. Laws that govern how leaders are chosen, have to be agreed on before the election, and then followed. We violated this in the 2000 election. The Constitution sets out exactly how the President is to be elected. There is nothing, nothing at all, in the Constitution, that can be interpreted as saying the Supreme Court gets to decide. They are not involved, in any way, in deciding who is President. Yet that's what happened. It was a completely un-Constitutional process, the kind of thing that happens in a Banana Republic. People, not laws, made the decision.

3. If nobody gets a majority, there needs to be a clear and fair run-off method, which elects the candidate acceptable to the most voters. Again, our current method violates this. In 2000, clearly the Green votes would have gone entirely to Gore, giving him a majority, if we had a runoff system. In the 1860 election, a runoff would have elected Douglas, a compromise candidate acceptable to both North and South, and the Civil War would have been averted.

<I don't think Bush feels he is accountable to anyone>

He talks to God, or at least hears voices he thinks is the Voice of God. That's who he's accountable to.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (119930)11/19/2003 2:57:08 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
And I don't think Bush feels he is accountable to anyone.

Really? he has less than a year to go before the next election. You think he believes he is going to be handed the victory on a platter?