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To: GraceZ who wrote (268199)11/20/2003 11:30:08 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
increasing consumption is not a worthy goal

If I recall correctly, that is why Bush said he was doing with the tax cuts.

If you boost business investment, you create jobs. You create more investment by allowing those who will use their last dollar to invest, rather than consume, to keep more of their money

If the goal was to increase business investments, rather than tax cuts aimed at an increase in personal income (primarily for the rich), they should have:
(1) Decreased corporate tax
(2) Introduced investment incentives

>>>And which country is worthy to the throne, would you say, as the second most fervent practitioner of near-perfect Capitalism?<<<
This country hasn't arisen yet but the country which is importing wealth at an extremely high rate is China. If they follow history, this will result in a large financial dislocation at some point in their future. This likelihood takes them off the list for a while.


So what is the answer to my question?

>>>Come on, Grace. You know it and I know it that ANY country's t-bills denominated in their own currency are zero-risk. <<<
Own any Russian government bonds back in 1999? A friend of mine traveled to Russian during that time and he said that he had to use a "hard" currency in the restaurants and bars (dollars, yen or marks) that they wouldn't take their own currency in ordinary transactions.


... which, of course, has nothing to do with default risk on Russian ruble bills, which was zero.

I am talking about the risk of default on t-bills when a country possesses a printing press (as they all do), which is ZERO. Worse comes to worse, US can always print more USDs and pay holders of t-bills on maturity. This, I said in response to your claim that it was an exceptional thing that the US was deemed to have zero-default risk on its government debt.

Now you are changing the subject to rapid devaluation of a country's currency. That is a different matter.

And when it was rising was it the Fed talking it up?

Sometimes. And sometimes there were other factors. Can you be more specific?

You can't have missed the Fed talking down the dollar in the past year or so, though.

A "strong dollar policy" has no teeth and never has therefore how can abandoning it have a consequence?

Surely, you jest. I am sure you know at some level that this statement is impossible to defend, so I will just pass the temptation to give an overview of recent history.

>>>(although the recent rise in imports boggles the mind slightly) <<<
Only because you don't see the current strength in the economy or you don't fully understand that a falling dollar has had a deflationary effect on our trading partners


Could you then explain it for those of us who are a bit slower in understanding the world why imports have to increase as the economy gets stronger (a claim not totally supported at this point) despite much higher cost of imported goods?

>>>but it didn't do much for the continuation of the trust in the USD as the reserve currency<<<
Those who hold most of our reserves have increased their reserves of dollars at the same time the dollar went from 120 to 90.


Could "those who hold most of your reserves" be Japan, who is gobbling up USD assets for reasons that have nothing to do with it being a reserve currency?

Tell me, Grace, do you really think China & Japan bought USD 20 bn out of USD 57 bn of the latest US t-bill auction because they TRUST the USD as a currency? Do they, like, BELIEVE in the USD??? :-)



To: GraceZ who wrote (268199)11/20/2003 12:46:18 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
"The Forex market in dollars is so large that no one government or even a group of governments can influence it's movements (the G7 has tried and failed numerous times). A "strong dollar policy" has no teeth and never has therefore how can abandoning it have a consequence? You still labor under the misconception that prices can be fixed, they can't. The free market will always assert itself somehow"

following is stephen roach's comments from september on the currency market imbalances

Global: Breakthrough

Stephen Roach (New York)

An unbalanced global economy has finally come to its senses. At the just-concluded G-7 meetings in Dubai, the world’s major industrial economies have endorsed the basic premise of global rebalancing -- a long overdue adjustment in the dollar. This could well have profound and lasting implications for the world economy. It is an unequivocally positive development, in my view.

Policy statements are always clouded with ambiguity. That’s true of central bank policy directives, as well as communiqués released after G-7 meetings. But for me, the communiqué from the 20 September G-7 meeting in Dubai was crystal clear. Three words said it all -- “flexibility” and “market mechanisms.” G-7 finance ministers have finally conceded that “…more flexibility in exchange rates is desirable for major countries or economic areas to promote smooth and widespread adjustments in the international financial system, based on market mechanisms.” In plain English this means that the perils of external imbalances -- massive deficits in America and surpluses in Asia and, to a lesser extent, Europe -- are now center stage. Market-driven currency adjustments are seen as the means to correct these potentially destabilizing external balances. This is a thinly veiled message to the Japanese, suggesting they cease and desist from their campaign of currency manipulation. It also puts other nations on notice who have been pegging their exchange rates -- especially China and its neighbors in Asia -- that there is no escaping the endgame of market-based principles of currency flexibility. But the essence of the message is that an unbalanced world now needs a weaker US dollar.

It’s worth underscoring how the world would benefit from an orderly depreciation of the dollar. From the standpoint of the United States, a weaker currency shifts the mix of economic growth from domestic demand to exports. Given America’s massive external financing needs -- currently more than $2 billion of capital inflows per business day -- foreign investors will probably need to be compensated for taking currency risk. That should result in higher real interest rates and a related suppression of domestic demand growth. Such an outcome will be key in enabling the US to rebuild national saving -- thereby weaning America from its increasing dependence on foreign saving and the current account deficits it needs to attract such capital from abroad. As an important aside, a weaker dollar will also be helpful in America’s anti-deflation campaign -- having the effect of transforming imported deflation into imported inflation.

Alas, there’s a certain zero-sum aspect to the global economy’s adjustment in relative prices. For the rest of the world -- or at least the major countries or regions that would have to bear the burden of the dollar’s correction -- the impacts are the mirror image of those facing the US. As the yen and the euro rise in response, export competitiveness in Japan and Europe will be diminished. That will force both economies to take actions aimed at promoting growth in long-sluggish domestic demand. Fiscal and monetary policies will need to be biased more toward accommodation than would be the case if the yen and the euro were artificially depressed. But the key impacts on Japan and Europe would be to accelerate the focus on reforms. Stronger currencies are the functional equivalent of “straitjackets” -- forcing nations or regions to unshackle domestic demand by making internal markets more flexible, businesses more efficient, and price-setting mechanisms more competitive. Without such reforms, there can be no global rebalancing.

Japan has long been a major stumbling block on the road to global rebalancing. Two reasons explain why it has now shifted its position -- economic growth and politics. The Japanese economy expanded at a 4.0% annual rate in 2Q03 bringing the year-over-year increase to 3.0%. On both counts, that qualifies Japan as the fastest growing economy in the G-7. While our Japan economics team looks for some weather-related consolidation in the current period, they now believe that a long-sluggish Japanese economy is on a moderate cyclical recovery path that could last through mid-2004. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Koizumi has solidified his political position, garnering 61% of the votes in the LDP leadership elections this past weekend, setting the stage for a solid general election victory in November. At the same time, he has reaffirmed his support for the principal reformer in his cabinet -- economics and financial services reform minister, Heizo Takenaka. With growth and politics moving into favorable alignment, this is a perfect opportunity for Japanese policy to shift focus away from currency manipulation to reform. With the yen now trading though the all-important ¥115 threshold against the dollar, it appears that the Japanese authorities have called off their campaign of aggressive currency intervention -- at least for the time being. There is no better time for the Koizumi government to seize the moment and get on with the heavy lifting of structural reform. For Japan, this could truly be its last chance.

For Europe, the basic message of the Dubai communiqué is inescapable: The imperatives of reform are about to become even more urgent. That’s not say Europe hasn’t made progress on this front over the past six months. That’s been the case in Germany, where Chancellor Schroeder’s government has not only accelerated the pace of tax cutting but has also moved ahead in proposing reforms of labor market regulations and social security. Meanwhile, the French government has withstood widespread protest and stayed the course on public sector pension reform; healthcare insurance reforms are next on France’s agenda. At the same time, there has been progress on Austrian pension reform and on Portuguese corporate tax reforms. At work have been the strictures of the Stability and Growth Pact, reinforced by the mounting pressures of a stronger euro. Global rebalancing offers no real let-up on the currency front, although the breakthrough in Dubai implies that some of the burden of the dollar’s adjustment will now be shifted away from Europe to Japan. But as the dollar’s correction gathers force, the pressures pointing to a stronger euro will not abate. That will keep the onus on reforms -- tough medicine over the near term but ultimately good news for Europe and for the hope of achieving better balance in the global economy.

The Dubai communiqué does not put explicit pressure on China and other developing nations to abandon currency pegs and adopt more flexible exchange rate regimes. I’ll be the first to admit that this conclusion is open to interpretation. But as I read the language of the latest G-7 statement, the reference is to currency flexibility in “major” economies -- a qualifier that is normally reserved for wealthy, industrial nations. I have argued at length why a developing Chinese economy should not be lumped in the same category as the developed economies (see, for example, my July 14 essay, The Scapegoating of China). The lack of well-developed financial systems and capital markets suggests that China and other developing countries are simply not prepared to cope with open capital accounts and the flexible currencies that more advanced nations can accommodate. China’s special outsourcing role in the global supply chain also argues against a revaluation of the renminbi. These considerations should not, however, be viewed as permanent. As China and other developing nations make progress on the road to reform and prosperity, currency flexibility can become a more realistic and important element of their growth strategies. In the end, there can be no special exemptions from global rebalancing.

For the US, Dubai was also a watershed event. The motivation is not hard to fathom. At work is an increasingly powerful interplay between economics and domestic politics, as America’s jobless recovery appears on a collision course with the Bush Administration’s re-election hopes. With America’s fiscal and monetary levers already fully engaged, the currency option takes on new and critical importance as the only means left to provide macro stimulus to a beleaguered US labor market. It remains to be seen as to whether such tactics will work -- especially with IT-enabled outsourcing creating a new and lasting global labor-cost arbitrage that biases US employment growth to the downside. But the Bush administration has evidently concluded that a currency adjustment needs to be added to America’s reflationary policy arsenal. In doing so, US politicians should benefit by having fundamental economics on their side, as America’s massive current account deficit screams out for a weaker dollar.

History tells us that the US dollar has only just begun its downward descent. On a broad trade-weighted basis, the dollar (in real terms) has fallen about 8% from its early 2001 highs. In a full-blown current account adjustment, a drop of around three times that magnitude can be expected -- not all that different than the 30% real deprecation of the dollar that occurred in the late 1980s when the current-account disequilibrium was far less acute. In the end, a lopsided world has no choice other than to accede to a weaker dollar. The G-7’s Dubai communiqué now puts the major economies of the world on the same page with respect to the global rebalancing that such a currency realignment can trigger. The road ahead will be long and arduous -- and not without risk, especially in oft-volatile currency markets. But the economics I practice suggest it is the only way out for such an unbalanced world. As someone with a long-standing gloomy bias on global prospects, I am now encouraged for the first time in four years.

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Global: What Are the Options?

Rebecca McCaughrin (New York)

Political pressure on Asian governments to revise their currency regime and sharp declines in the price of US government debt have fueled concerns that if central banks were to diversify their holdings, US interest rates would rise, raising the specter of even greater volatility in Treasury bond yields. This, it is argued, could derail the economic recovery, as higher interest rates could in turn slow consumer and business spending. In our view, these concerns are highly exaggerated, and, in fact, misplaced.

First, although central banks played a critical role in financing the deficit over the last year and a half, they are not the linchpin that they are often perceived to be, in our view. True, foreign official institutions have sharply increased their holdings of US agencies and Treasuries, rising 40% from $694 billion in 1999 to $968 billion by the end of Q2. This rapid accumulation of US assets means that central banks have been playing a much larger role than they traditionally do in covering the deficit.

However, while large relative to historic absolute levels, official holdings as a share of total (official and private) securities holdings are not particularly high, and, in fact, have been declining over the last 25 years. Since hitting a peak of 69% of total securities holdings in 1978, official institutions’ share has declined to an average of just 22% over the last five years. The share is even lower, just 12%, if we incorporate investment in factories, equipment, and other FDI-related assets, which is where the bulk of private holdings is concentrated.

Second, we are not especially concerned by the role central banks have been playing in propping up demand for US assets, because central banks are less prone than private investors to sharply reallocate their holdings. The last thing central banks want to do is spark a collapse in financial markets. In contrast to more fickle private investors, stability, not rate of return, drives central bank decision-making.

Moreover, the tables are already beginning to turn. While official institutions have been eagerly snapping up US assets since the beginning of 2002, private investors have also recently begun to accelerate their purchases of US securities. In Q2, net purchases by overseas private investors jumped to $148 billion, marking the highest level seen in over 30 years. Part of the surge in private inflows is due to European investors’ returning to corporate assets after a two-year hiatus while also shifting funds into US Treasuries. At the same time, private Asian investors have also been increasing their accumulation of US assets. In the longer term, as China gradually moves toward liberalizing its capital account, and restrictions on overseas investment by private citizens ease, we could see even more private investment coming from Asia.

Third, and more importantly, if foreigners were to diversify, the question is where? Which markets are liquid and large enough to support the $9.1 trillion of foreign capital that comprises the US net liabilities position? The US is a natural destination for global capital. US trading partners must either reinvest their surplus dollars or convert them into local currencies. Converting dollars incurs transaction costs and puts undesired upward pressure on local currencies, depressing growth in export-oriented economies.

In terms of alternatives, Japanese assets have recently become more attractive to foreigners. The economy grew by an impressive 3.9% during Q2 on an annualized basis, outpacing all other industrialized economies. The economic news continues to surprise on the upside, leading our team to raise their CY03 GDP growth forecast to 2.6%, up from 0.8% just three months ago. With the Nikkei knocking up against the 11,000 mark, foreigners have been piling into equities for 22 consecutive weeks. But the pickup in demand for Japanese equities has done little to detract from US-bound investment. This is because the BoJ has aggressively been counterbalancing the diversification of foreign investors into Japanese assets by buying up nearly $80 billion in dollar-denominated assets this year, more than offsetting the $38 billion the economy has received in foreign inflows. Foreigners have also been targeting Euroland fixed income instruments, but unlike US residents, Euroland residents have also been very large buyers of overseas securities. As was evident in the Q2 BoP release, the US has been a primary beneficiary of these flows. The US still remains far and away the dominant destination for global capital -- whether by default or merit.

Finally, vulnerabilities lie on both sides. Excessive assets are an imbalance in the same way that excessive liabilities are. Correcting these imbalances would impose serious dislocations on both. If foreigners were to begin to sell US bonds, once they began to convert the dollars received from bond sales back into local currency, FX markets would be inundated with dollars, resulting in a sharp unraveling in the dollar. Although foreigners would eventually be able to repatriate their funds, they would do so at a very significant cost. The adjustment process is complicated by the fact that trade deficits are slower to reverse. Once consumers have developed a preference for foreign goods, their appetite does not change overnight. Moreover, suppliers may be unable to cancel or amend prearranged longer-term contracts with wholesalers. By contrast, foreigners could quickly decamp from US assets, most of which are held by more fickle private investors. That day of reckoning is a far greater concern, in our view, than the risk of central banks’ sparking a collapse in the Treasury market and stunting the economic recovery.