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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bob who wrote (496028)	11/20/2003 1:39:37 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Because there is something truly bizarre about a situation where we have driven the Taliban out of government in Afghanistan who used to stop women going about the street as they wished, who used to prevent girls going to school, who brutalized and terrorized their population; I don't think that the left opposed going to war against bin Laden and the terrorist supporting Taliban. there's something bizarre about having got rid of Saddam in Iraq from the government of Iraq, when we've already discovered just so far the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves Weren't these mass graves the result of the Bush I administration encouraging the Shia to rise up against Saddam and then did nothing to help them as Saddam slaughtered them? Our Civil War left at least that many dead in mass graves. there is something bizarre about these situations happening, and people saying that they disagree, when the effect of us not doing this would be that the Taliban was still in Afghanistan and Saddam was still in charge of Iraq. There is something bizarre about using the situation in Afghanistan to link the cause to Saddam. As always harkening back to 9-11 to justify attacking Iraq. And I think people have got to accept that that is the consequence of the position therein. No, that is not the position we should accept. There were many other ways to deal with Saddam besides sending another 50,000 or more people to their death. Further the way of war has not solved the situation in Iraq. The killing continues. I believe that we had no choice but to attack bin Laden. But somehow we did not complete that mission. Now we pre-emptively attack Iraq, and done so on the basis of evidence that has turned up hollow. This was wrong. There were other means at our disposal to take care of Saddam, just as there are other means at our disposal to take care of Kim Jong Il. Orca

To: Bob who wrote (496028)	11/20/2003 2:40:24 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

In the rush to invade Iraq, Afghanistan has been handed back to the various warlords (Karzai is not President of the country, he is more like mayor of Kabul, or maybe 10 blocks in Kabul!). The warlords are imposing the same kind of restrictions on women that the Taliban had. So, as far as the locals go, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Btw, after the Taliban left, Afghanistan has had a bumper opium crop. So things ARE getting better, it just depends on how you define "better", I guess! And yet, Dumb and Dumber (Blair and Bush) keep saying their nonsense again and again and again.