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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (79197)	11/21/2003 6:35:38 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Cows don't have human rights they have cow's rights. The two are equal and not incompatible. I think what I think of when I read "the two are equal" is not what you mean to say. Tim

To: one_less who wrote (79197)	11/21/2003 8:55:03 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

So when are a cow’s rights violated? When a human being inflicts, cruel and malicious harm on the animal, especially when it is unnecessary. The cow has no rights per se but the person caring for them has certain obligations. If you own a slaughter animal you must feed, water and if it is housed have sanitary conditions for it. The above conditions apply to animals hauled any distance and protection must be afforded from extreme conditions of heat and cold while being transported. I think it is unusually cruel how swine and fowl are mass produced. I saw a massive 700 foot long hog barn a few weeks ago, in the east wing was the piglet nursery the next three divisions of the barn were dedicated to growing and fattening with special foods, additives and lights. The only time the pigs see the natural light of day is when they step out of the barn to be loaded and driven 50 miles to a slaughter barn. There is a chicken rendering plant a few miles from here where local producers haul dead and dying egg laying chickens. The chickens are loaded into a cannon and shot at a hundred miles per hour into a gigantic fan the residue of which is made into pellets to feed chickens awaiting either the market or the same fate. I can't believe this type of production is how nature or God intended.

To: one_less who wrote (79197)	11/28/2003 12:20:45 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"Beasts suffer and die in a Sahara desert drought, without having been violated." Humans do, too. They may or may not have been violated. All creatures kill one another in order to survive. Humans also kill to make money (elephant tusks or the nuts of a tiger)--this is our "RIGHT"!

To: one_less who wrote (79197)	11/29/2003 6:08:12 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"It is not a violation of a beast’s rights to be slaughtered and eaten since this is its natural condition. We should not automatically conclude that a beast's rights have been violated simply because it has suffered" Sort of like it is natural for blacks to be lynched... Why do you have the right to kill the cow--again? Because it is "natural" for you to do so? You have a "right" to remain silent, Mr. Cow; and you have a "right" to be slaughtered? You have "rights" Mr. Cow. We just don't know what they are. You DO NOT have the right NOT to suffer--(see quote above). OH! GOT IT! YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO EAT GRASS!! ... (unless we slaughter you between the smell and the taste).