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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (17082)11/21/2003 2:27:50 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793717
 
Gay marriage looms large for '04
By Susan Page
USA TODAY

Massachusetts case could be a wedge issue along the lines of 'Roe' ruling

WASHINGTON -- Gay marriage is now poised to rival abortion as an issue that inflames and divides American voters.
The 4-3 decision Tuesday by Massachusetts' highest court recognized a right for same-sex couples to marry. One conservative activist calls it ''the starting gun'' for a debate that pits cultural and religious traditions for one side against principles of equality for the other.

The repercussions have the potential to energize millions of conservative Christians in next year's elections, exacerbate the political polarization evident in 2000 and make it impossible for leaders in either party to downplay the issue.

''It could very well be as big an issue as Roe v. Wade,'' says John Green, a University of Akron political scientist who studies the intersection of politics and religion. The 1973 Supreme Court decision in Roe established abortion rights and has provoked a fierce debate ever since. Gay marriage sets up a similar conflict between rights and values.

The issue is likely to be problematic for Democrats. While polls show an overwhelming majority of Republicans oppose gay marriage, Democrats are split. Some analysts say support of gay marriage or civil unions could be a ''wedge'' issue that separates moderate voters from Democratic candidates the way school busing and welfare reform once did.

A senior Democratic strategist, speaking on condition that he not be identified, says Democrats haven't figured out how to finesse an issue they expect Republicans to use as a ''hammer'' next year -- not only in the presidential election, but also in contests for Congress and state legislatures.

There are complications for Republicans as well. ''If Republicans become too harsh in their language, it creates an appearance of intolerance, which is not attractive to swing voters,'' Republican pollster Whit Ayres says, although he says the problems are greater for Democrats.

President Bush has sidestepped questions about a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and a woman, and advisers have said in the past that he has had no appetite to make the issue a priority. One other factor that White House aides say has had some impact: Vice President Cheney has an openly gay daughter who runs his campaign office.

'The ultimate litmus test'

The White House delayed making a statement on the court ruling for more than six hours Tuesday. Bush's travel to London may have been one reason, though communications with Air Force One are instantaneous.

''Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman,'' Bush said in a brief statement issued in late afternoon. ''I will work with congressional leaders and others to do what is legally necessary to defend the sanctity of marriage.''

Including a constitutional amendment? White House spokesman Trent Duffy replied, ''I would just let the statement speak for itself.''

That calibrated comment probably won't satisfy conservative Christians, who are up to 40% of the Republican base.

''This is going to be a great divider and the ultimate litmus test,'' says Sandy Rios, president of Concerned Women for America. ''We have a freight train coming down the pike, and a federal constitutional amendment is the only way to stop it.'' If Bush fails to take the lead, she says, ''I think that conservative evangelicals will stay home'' on Election Day.

''The president, I hope, recognizes that there are two wars raging: one in Iraq and the other a battle over our culture and our values,'' says Gary Bauer, president of American Values. He is a co-founder of the Arlington Group, a coalition of evangelical Christian and other conservative organizations that has been meeting since July in anticipation of the Massachusetts decision.

Advocates of gay marriage are equally impassioned. The decision ''will enhance the lives of thousands, maybe tens of thousands of Massachusetts citizens and will have no negative effects on anyone else,'' says Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who is openly gay.

The Human Rights Campaign, an advocacy group for gays, has begun buying newspaper ads that show gay couples as neighbors and parents.

A Pew Research Center poll on attitudes toward homosexuality, released Tuesday, found that 78% of voters who favor Bush's re-election oppose gay marriage. That sentiment is likely to be reflected in the GOP platform next year, says Ed Gillespie, the Republican national chairman.

Among those who want to see a Democrat elected in 2004, however, there is no consensus: 46% favor gay marriage, and 48% oppose it.

That helps explain Democratic presidential candidates' own careful statements:

* ''Although I am opposed to gay marriage, I have also long believed that states have the right to adopt for themselves laws that allow same-sex unions,'' Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman said.

* ''While I continue to oppose gay marriage, I believe that today's decision calls on the Massachusetts state Legislature to take action to ensure equal protection for gay couples,'' Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said.

* ''I do not support gay marriage, but I hope the Massachusetts Legislature will act in a manner that is consistent with today's . . . ruling,'' Missouri Rep. Richard Gephardt said.

Former Vermont governor Howard Dean's statement mentioned his history on the issue: ''I was proud to sign the nation's first law establishing civil unions for same-sex couples.'' That bill was enacted after a Vermont court sent the issue to the Legislature.

A broader battle

The Massachusetts court also sent the issue to its Legislature. But the decision is sparking a national reaction because it is viewed as the most dramatic step in what critics see as a concerted challenge to traditional values.

Advocates for gay men and lesbians have been heartened by a series of developments this year. The U.S. Supreme Court struck down an anti-sodomy law. The Episcopal Church ordained an openly gay bishop. A Canadian appeals court ruled that it was unconstitutional to deny same-sex couples the same marriage rights as opposite-sex couples.

But each of those events caused controversy, and surveys show that there has been some backlash. While Americans are increasingly opposed to discrimination against gays, 59% now oppose gay marriage, according to the Pew survey, up from 53% in July. Nearly one in three say greater acceptance of gays and lesbians would be bad for the nation.

The Pew survey found that attitudes were most negative among members of evangelical churches. They were most positive among young people.

Next year, gay marriage may well be a ''wedge'' issue, says Elizabeth Birch, executive director of the Human Rights Campaign: ''It will take much longer than a year for the American people to give this thought and consideration.''

usatoday.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (17082)11/21/2003 4:01:10 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793717
 
Against Giddiness
From the November 24, 2003 issue: The president still has work to do to assure reelection
by Fred Barnes, Weekly Standard
11/24/2003, Volume 009, Issue 11


REPUBLICANS ARE GIDDY. The economy is on the verge of a sustained boom. After nearly two years of a "jobless recovery," new jobs are being created in large numbers. Iraq is a problem--a big problem--but a midcourse correction in postwar policy may curb terrorist attacks and hasten a democratic government. And Democrats are about to nominate a presidential candidate with George McGovern's foreign policy and Walter Mondale's tax increases, a double whammy leading to unelectability. By all odds, President Bush should sail to reelection.

Sorry, but it's not that easy. For one thing, Democrats may not nominate Howard Dean, the antiwar, tax-raising liberal. He's the frontrunner and leads in the first primary state, New Hampshire. But New Hampshire voters take a perverse pleasure in knocking off frontrunners. Besides, even if Dean is the nominee, he's likely to make an ideological beeline to the center and confront Bush as an antiwar fiscal conservative with liberal social leanings who wants to stabilize Iraq, not bug out. Having locked up the left, he can concentrate on wooing the center by limiting his tax hike to the so-called wealthy and emphasizing health care, an issue that reliably favors Democrats. And the press would probably treat him not as an egregious flip-flopper, but as a wily pragmatist looking to outsmart Bush.

So the president still has work to do to assure reelection. The economy, spurred by Bush's tax cuts, can be left to its own devices. Iraq cannot. The most significant problem in Iraq is not the lack of power granted the Iraqi Governing Council. It's the security situation. The terrorist attacks and Baathist guerrilla operations must not be allowed to linger deep into 2004 or Bush could pay a big political price. It may not make sense for voters to conclude an antiwar Democrat would handle Iraq better, but stranger things have happened. Pro-war Democrats voted for antiwar Eugene McCarthy in 1968 because they feared the war in Vietnam wasn't being won. Giving more authority to Iraqis won't solve the security threat. Only by eliminating the security threat will Iraq have a chance to emerge as a durable democracy.

Normally, a liberal Democrat who claims to be a fiscal conservative would pose no danger to a conservative Republican. But Bush's spending record is so awful (non-military expenditures up 8.7 percent in 2003) that Dean, for one, might make headway on the issue. After all, his fiscal record as Vermont governor wasn't all that bad. At the least, he could use the spending issue to take the edge off his liberalism and embarrass Bush. And no doubt former Treasury secretary Robert Rubin, his new book in hand, will travel the country, arguing that deficit reduction spawned the late 1990s boom. What can Bush do? Plenty. He can resist the temptation to settle for a Medicare bill that creates a prescription drug benefit but includes no cost-saving reforms. For now, a simple (and less costly) discount card for seniors would be more than adequate. He should also be ready to use his veto pen--for the first time--when appropriation bills with excessive spending reach his desk. Bush has wisely decided to campaign in 2004 for Social Security reform, which would help stave off insolvency.

Finally, there are social and religious conservatives to pay attention to. Bush adviser Karl Rove has worried aloud about 4million religious conservatives who failed to vote in 2000. Next year, Bush shouldn't expect his evangelical Christian faith, now well known, to lure them to the polls. He'll need to address their concerns--abortion, gay marriage, pornography, anti-Christian bias. Harping on these isn't necessary, but making his positions clear and unequivocal is. Bush made a gratuitous mistake at his last press conference by saying the country isn't ready to ban abortion. That may be true, but he'd have been smarter to focus on the next item on the pro-life agenda, making violence against unborn children a federal crime. Social conservatives need to be encouraged. They will be--if they're certain the president is on their side.

Republican strategists who sniff a landslide in the making may think none of this is required. Maybe they're right. There's no doubt Bush is far better off than his father was going into the 1992 election. But politics is a dynamic process characterized by wild swings. Just think if Saddam Hussein were captured or killed. Support for Bush's Iraq policy would jump 20 points instantly. But also consider the possible political consequences if the U.S. military suffered a dramatic setback in Iraq next year or if another 9/11-class terrorist attack occurred at home or if the economy had a hiccup or if a serious scandal struck the Bush administration. None of these is likely. But Bush needs to be strong enough politically to withstand such scenarios, especially in the not-farfetched event he faces a Democratic foe capable of making the presidential race competitive.

--Fred Barnes, for the Editors

weeklystandard.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (17082)11/21/2003 8:51:47 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793717
 
Oh, cut the blather.... that's just the way it is

Spoken like a true believer !

Unfortunately, we can't run a democracy as a faith-based exercise. That's how to run the Taliban.

Anyone in gov't that says "trust me" is immediately suspect.

When in doubt, it's always better to check the facts, greater terrorist threats, people killed on all sides, elimination of rights.

The way this is going, the inevitable result will be that the US will become a mirror of Israel, with official secrets acts, daily terrorism in our malls and miilitary aggression in our streets. My experience in Israel was of a fanatic polarization. I see the same is happening here, not coincidentally in the interests of the incumbancy.