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To: Sully- who wrote (17114)11/21/2003 10:34:09 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793721
 
Another Presidential Candidate who dodged the draft? We are going to get this for a couple of more Presidential cycles.

November 22, 2003
33 Years Later, Draft Becomes Topic for Dean
By RICK LYMAN and CHRISTOPHER DREW

n the winter of 1970, a 21-year-old student from Yale walked into his armed services physical in New York carrying X-rays and a letter from his orthopedist, eager to know whether a back condition might keep him out of the military draft.

This was not an uncommon scene in 1970, when medical deferments were a frequently used avenue for those wary of taking part in the increasingly unpopular war in Vietnam. And this story would have little interest save that Howard Dean was the name of the young man. Now, 33 years later, he finds himself a leading Democrat in the quest for the party's nomination to be president of the United States.

Dr. Dean got the medical deferment, but in a recent interview he said that he probably could have served.

"I guess that's probably true," he said. "I mean, I was in no hurry to get into the military." But now that he is running for president, in a race when many Democrats feel they need a candidate with strong national security credentials to challenge President Bush, the choices the former Vermont governor made 33 years ago are providing ammunition for critics.

Senator John Kerry and Gen. Wesley K. Clark, two of his strongest challengers for the Democratic nomination, have recently started running advertisements highlighting their military experience. And all the Democratic candidates except Carol Moseley Braun had to face the possibility of being drafted during the Vietnam War.

In the 10 months after his graduation from Yale, time he might otherwise have spent in uniform, Dr. Dean lived the life of a ski bum in Aspen, Colo. His back condition did not affect his skiing the way the rigors of military service would have, he said, nor did it prevent him from supplementing a trust fund with odd jobs like pouring concrete in the warm months and washing dishes when it got cold.

Even the candidate's mother, Andree Maitland Dean, said in a recent interview about his medical deferment, "Yeah, that looks bad."

Dr. Dean suffers from a condition called spondylolysis, a low-back pain that sometimes radiates into the legs, according to the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons' online information site.

In interviews, the candidate and his mother said that his condition was aggravated only by certain types of physical activity, not including skiing.

Dr. Dean said it was the military's decision to grant him the deferment, but he also said he was eager to get it. Had he wanted to serve, he probably could have.

Ever since the first politicians who came of draft age during Vietnam rose to the national stage, the question has been a recurring one: Did you serve in Southeast Asia, or did you take a different path?

Dan Quayle, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 1988, was criticized by opponents who said he had used family connections to land a spot in the Indiana National Guard, which he denied doing. In 2000, George W. Bush drew similar attacks and issued a similar denial for landing his spot in the Texas Air National Guard. And Bill Clinton's machinations to avoid military service led to charges that he was a draft-dodging product of the 1960's, a label he was never entirely able to shake.

In each case, the answer did not prevent the candidates from winning. But Mr. Quayle was running with the senior Bush, a former pilot with combat experience, and by the time Mr. Clinton and George W. Bush sought the presidency, the cold war had ended and defense had receded as an issue. The terrorist attacks of 9/11 and the war in Iraq have changed that, and national security will probably rival the economy as a major issue in next year's campaign.

Dr. Dean may well draw the early heat on the issue because he has pushed near the front of the Democratic pack. Beyond that two of his opponents — General Clark, a West Point graduate who served in Vietnam and rose to command NATO forces, and Mr. Kerry, who served two tours in Vietnam and came away with a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts — regularly remind voters of their military credentials.

The other candidates are less likely to make it an issue because they did not serve in Vietnam either.

Like Dr. Dean, Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio was declared ineligible for a medical reason, a heart murmur. He said he was disappointed not to be able to serve, though he later turned against the war.

"I come from a working-class family," he said. "Military service is more or less taken as a given." Candidate Carol Moseley Braun, a former United States senator from Illinois, was, of course, ineligible for the draft because she is a woman.

Young men with low lottery numbers had only a handful of choices to avoid service. One was to flee the country, to Canada or elsewhere, as a relative handful did. Others chose National Guard service, if they could get it.

But for many who did not wish to serve, a medical deferment was the easiest route of escape.

In a 1970 article in The New York Times, Curtis W. Tarr, the director of Selective Service, said the rising number of medical deferments — from 24.2 percent of those examined in 1966 to 40.7 percent in July 1969 — was causing alarm in Washington.

"It's one of the real inequities left in the system," he said, because young men from wealthier families could afford to pay for tests that might uncover some deferrable medical condition.

Dr. Dean was born on Nov. 17, 1948, and his eligibility for the draft was determined by a lottery held on Dec. 1, 1969. His birth date was 143 and people with numbers as high as 195 were drafted from this group, which was composed of men born between Jan. 1, 1944 and Dec. 31, 1950, according to the Selective Service. Three subsequent lotteries were held to cover those born in later years.

The back condition that apparently led to Dr. Dean's deferment had been discovered years before his armed services physical.

"When he was in high school, Howard developed these back pains and we decided we had to find out what it was," his mother said.

Dr. Dean went to an orthopedist, who diagnosed spondylolysis.

Many have the condition without feeling any symptoms, the Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons site says. Others develop a sense of muscle strain in the lower back, usually following periods of extreme physical exertion. Treatment usually involves little more than taking a break from the physical activity that caused the condition, after which it fades away, although it can recur. In some cases, surgery is warranted.

"I developed back pain when I was running track" in high school, Dr. Dean said. "It wasn't there all the time, but it was there some of the time."

In early 1970, more than a year before Dr. Dean's student deferment was due to lapse, he decided to see where he stood.

If approved for service, he said, he thought he might try Officer Candidate School, as a Yale friend had done. He said he had never considered the National Guard.

So, he came to his physical armed with X-rays and a letter from his orthopedist.

"It was like a scene from the movie `Alice's Restaurant,' " Dr. Dean said. "There was every kind of person you can imagine. Guys who weighed 375. guys who were 6-feet-5 with hair down to their knees and needle tracks up and down their arms."

Dr. Dean said he saw a young man sharing his urine specimen with a fellow draftee. "I mean, that is what it was like," Dr. Dean said. "Welcome to the U.S. Army, boys."

The future Vermont governor followed everyone through the various stages of the physical, eventually handing his packet to a military orthopedist.

A few weeks later, a letter arrived informing him that his draft classification had been changed from 2-S, the student deferment, to 1-Y. Under that classification, he was qualified for military service only in case of extreme national emergency, meaning that he effectively moved to the very back of the line.

As for those months on the Colorado slopes, Dr. Dean said that such activity did not exacerbate his back condition, as running did. And yes, he said, the pain does sometimes come back, especially now that he's getting older.

"Sometimes you'll see, when I get out of the plane or the car, that I walk and there's a bit of a limp for the first few yards," Dr. Dean said. "If I sit in one position for too long, it bothers me now."

nytimes.com



To: Sully- who wrote (17114)11/21/2003 11:37:59 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793721
 
The false assumption is this: the greater the force of modern weaponry is used against nation-states in the "war against terrorism", the less terrorism there will be.

What is now occuring in Turkey and Iraq show the opposite.

The next assertion by the Bush administration, is as in Vietnam, that the solution is still greater force, and eventually will "succeed".

Look carefully for a definition of "success". There isn't one. The only definition of "winning" is the next election, judging by the GOP political ads out today, which attempts to portray anyone who opposes Bush as pro-terror. Answer? More terror if you vote against Bush. To underscore the message will be more terrorism and warnings until next November.

If you want to use a different metric than body count, feel free to find one. But the news reports of body counts and wounded from all sides in the conflict are what turn opinion against the Bush Doctrine and drive new recruits.

The invasion of Iraq was ill-conceived for political purposes and has become a recruiting theme, made further obvious just this week by the multiple alliances Al Queada is now forming. These new groups now coordinate their attacks, and take multiple credit when they happen.

Notice what has happened in Israel over 40 years. The greater the military violence the more terrorism escalates in response. We can expect no difference. We are headed in the same failed direction on a larger scale.



To: Sully- who wrote (17114)11/22/2003 1:35:43 AM
From: Neeka  Respond to of 793721
 
Secruity will be beefed up after the attacks this week in Turkey. Al Queda will be forced eventually to hit targets inside the EU i.e Germany and France. Saudi Arabia incorrectly thought they were immune and security was weak. You'll see the same there. When they are hit you will see a stronger coalition without the need for contract negotiations. The result of stronger coalition armies will be a more fragmented terrorist organization.

I heard it said that US troops will far distance themselves from The French Foreign Legion because they fight too much like animals.

M