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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (2519)	11/22/2003 8:24:40 AM
From: Chas.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

Nuclear energy can replace 98% of petroleum based necessities..........we just need the will to go there and necessity being the Mother of Invention I suspect we will ultimately end up there one day. I appreciate your doomsday thoughts but don't believe it will happen the way you suggest.........or in the next 50 years, maybe a 100 or so..... we need the World Economy thing to play itself out first, I suggest that it will drive our standard of living to drop to that of the average Europeans and maybe even beyond to China or Indias........ America will end up like Mexico IAM as there will be two classes...the Ruling Rich and the Working Poor... After 30 or 40 years of that maybe we will enter into our Road Warrior phase. I have other scenarios but usually get barred from the boards or put on ignore for expressing them.... regards

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (2519)	11/23/2003 2:43:13 AM
From: Mark Adams	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

today must not be wasted I'm glad you discovered a healthier coping mechanism. <g> The Party's Over I've read. I also know of the dieoff.org website, and listened in on some hardcore thinkers via a mailing list. Understanding the nature of the potential problem provides a platform for seeking solutions. The net energy approach put forth by researchers requires exploring bias and motivation. It also ignores potential technology advances. recognition of a scientific prediction or is it an “auto-toxic meme”? It is autotoxic only if the idea damages/destroys the host. I'm not holding you responsible for my coping mechanisms. I was just concerned about you, and what that view of the future might be doing to you. But there is also a bit of responsibility we can both take, in considering how what we are pondering may impact others. For example, I haven't told my neice's and nephews about a potential future some would say appears to be bleak. They haven't developed the critical thinking skills to evaluate the info and develop their own coping mechanisms. I did mention to my brother, who is adult sized, that I'm considering how I might structure my life to cope with a tripling in the price of petrol, and all that entails. This contingent planning does not preclude a future with unimaginable propserity just around the corner, presuming we don't self distruct first. recognizing one will eventually die A measure of peace and freedom, I found in that. But then, the question becomes one's legacy. While I may no longer exist in human form, what I've become while I'm here, and perhaps, some of my ideas, may live on.