To: LindyBill who wrote (17236 ) 11/22/2003 12:28:36 PM From: ChinuSFO Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 793750 Give me the reasons that Bush has to hold onto Iraq if it is not for having a large share of the Iraqi oil resources. I mean he formed a govt. in Afghanistan very quickly. The deposed king of Afghanistan did play a big role indeed. But in the case of Iraq, that role can be played by the UN, is it not? If he can hand over power very quickly in Afghanistan why does he not do so in Iraq? You think he would have the sense to grab the opportunity of UN offers. Lindy do you seriously think that handing over power to the Iraqis before June 2004 would bring about stability in Iraq. We would never see that happen even during June 2004. The terrorists are hell bent to create trouble and instability. If he is a smart man and wants to win reelection, I think he should quickly hand over to the UN, move out and if the UN fails then in June 2004 he could tell the people "Look I told you so, the UN is a bunch of no gooders." But no, he wants the oil. I would take the UN up on the offer, Russia, France Germany whoever they may be. Here, this is from Kuwait Times. Take the offer and get out from there. Wait till after the elections is what I would do. So let us abandon the accusation that people like me are against Bush. We are for the US and US lives and care for the US to be part of the world community, not outside it. Our sons, daughters etc. are out there fighting for the country. We care what the US does.Moscow calls for UN peace confab on Iraq MOSCOW: Russia yesterday called on the United Nations to hold a conference aimed at drafting a peace plan for Iraq that would provide for the dispatch of international peacekeepers to the war-torn country. "We suggest holding a conference on Iraq under the auspices of the United Nations," Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said in an interview with US channel CNN, the text of which was released by the Russian foreign ministry. The meeting, said Ivanov, "could draft a joint settlement plan which would then be submitted to the UN Security Council. We believe it is essential for a certain period to have international security forces in Iraq, whose mandate should be clearly established by the UN Security Council," he said. "We are all interested in Iraq not turning into a hotbed of international terrorism," Ivanov said. "But for this, our steps have to be effective, we have to conduct a dialogue. "Russia, which along with France and Germany bitterly opposed the US-led war on Baghdad, has been arguing for a strong UN role in the reconstruction of the country. Moscow had billions of dollars in loans outstanding from the overthrown regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, with whom Russian oil companies had signed multi-billion-dollar oil contracts. Russia said it would present a draft resolution to the UN Security Council to turn the Mideast "roadmap" into a binding plan, as Russian President Vladimir Putin and Jordan's King Abdullah II held talks on the measure. "The Russian Federation together with other Security Council members has introduced and will present on Wednesday the draft resolution on the roadmap," Deputy Foreign Minister Yury Fedotov was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency. "We expect the resolution to be adopted by the end of the week," he added. The roadmap, which envisions the creation of a Palestinian state alongside a secure Israel by 2005, was drafted by the so-called quartet of the United Nations, United States, European Union and Russia, but has been stalled by continuing violence. Fedotov said that the Security Council endorsement of the roadmap would help to concentrate the minds of the opposing parties and lead to greater international involvement in resolving the conflict. "The adoption of this resolution is aimed at giving an additional impulse to international efforts, including the efforts of the quartet of international mediators in ensuring both sides fulfill their obligations under the roadmap," he said. But Israel has come out strongly against the roadmap being turned into a binding UN resolution. Two weeks ago, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon failed during talks in Moscow to convince Putin to drop Russia's efforts in this direction. Washington has been less than enthusiastic about another council resolution on the Middle East, preferring that Israel and the Palestinians instead take steps to implement the plan, which was unveiled earlier this year. The announcement came as Putin hosted Jordan's Abdullah for talks at the Kremlin. "During our meeting we will discuss bilateral relations, our economic relations, problems of a settlement in the Middle East, and issues related to Iraq," Putin told reporters before the start of the Kremlin talks. Abdullah praised the "exceptional role" played by Russia in strengthening stability in the Middle East and in "supporting peace and stability in our region." Russia's regular contributions to efforts to ease Israeli-Palestinian relations and resolve the situation in Iraq were "an extremely important factor for all countries in the region," he said. Jordan strongly feels that the roadmap is the cornerstone of a Middle East settlement. Abdullah in late October asked Palestinian prime minister Ahmed Qorei to present him with ideas to revive the roadmap that he will submit to US President George W. Bush, whom Abdullah is set to meet in December. Putin and Abdullah were also expected to discuss the latest developments in Iraq as well as bilateral cooperation between Amman and Moscow. Abdullah hinted to ITAR-TASS that Russia's arms exports could be on the agenda, saying that "I am a soldier, and I have always liked Russian weapons and admired the Russian military industry."kuwaittimes.net