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To: KyrosL who wrote (17414)	11/23/2003 12:01:06 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

My prediction is that by 2008, when Hillary is running for President, the Republican candidate will either embrace National Health insurance or lose to Hillary in a landslide. "It takes a Village" to give you "Hillarycare." When the "Village" sets down to decide whither to give you kidney dialysis, or put braces on sweet little Wendy, guess who wins? After all, we only have so much money available, and you are old and will die soon anyway. :>)

To: KyrosL who wrote (17414)	11/24/2003 4:45:49 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

Like most socialized systems they look ok for the first thirty or so years. After that point, the model begins to break-down until it decays and decays. We see that happening in France, in England, in Canada and in many other countries which have socialized medicine. A free-market based system, linked to a socialized system of compassion for the needy and elderly seem to be the best long term model to follow. Where those dividing lines exist, and how to manage them is a difficult nut to crack and will be debated for years to come. Hillary-Care is dead, anyone who again attempts to take-over of 17 percent of one of our most dynamic industries, which is leading the world, is doomed to lose a tremendous amount of voter support. Americans aren't flying to Canada or France, or England for medical treatment, they are flying here. That says all that needs to be said about quality of health care. Infant mortality is a red-herring, most nations in the world don't bother trying to save a 3 month old baby like we do in American hospitals. That combined with drug abuse, severely alters the statistics. Life expectancy is not really related to health care as much as it's related to health maintenance. We eat more fatty foods, exercise less, and stress out more on the job, that's what lowers our mortality rate when compared to some countries around the world. Giving up and letting the government manage it all will do nothing but create a hornets nest of waste-fraud and abuse. And we've already seen how bad that can get with medicare and medicaid. In the future, we'll more likely to see socialized systems move toward the American model instead of the other way around.