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To: LindyBill who wrote (17438)	11/23/2003 6:26:46 PM
From: MSI	Respond to of 793740

Too contrived, doesn't really lay a glove on Dean, imo. For one thing, anytime there are long explanations for a simple position, you end up talking to the political junkies, not the public. That's because complex accusations like this by their nature call for detailed responses, which in Dean's case would be details and level of information, at each decision point. Oliphant's usually good, but Dean has been so clearly opposed for so long it's difficult to believe the case. Seeing Dean in debates and speeches it's hard to imagine him being the among the the rest of the unquestioning jellyfish who now sputter complicated denials. Unlike the other candidates, Dean appears like he's got the cojones to stand up to the neocon-hijackers gov't in Washington.

To: LindyBill who wrote (17438)	11/23/2003 6:52:07 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793740

FWIW, this doesn't sound like someone who's new to the position of skepticism on Washington in general and the Iraq invasion in particular. Dean says the last two elections have flooded politics with over $5.1 BILLION DOLLARS in contributions. Using the reliable rule of 100:1 reward-to-contribution ratio for Washington bribery, that's $500 Billion in resulting hoped-for profits. It would be interesting to do an audit. deanforamerica.com "WHEN IN THE Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation. Two centuries ago, our founders brought into this world a new republic. This republic brought to the world a new era of self-government. It ensured the rights of the citizenry and gave them the vote to elect representatives. Throughout this nation’s history, the American people have struggled to keep their rights and make their government work for them. We have seen the populists, progressives, women, labor, and civil rights movements. Today our government has become overrun by special interests. Working with President George Bush, they have turned our government into a system that works for the profit of the few not the benefit of the many. They have in the last two elections flooded our politics with over 5.1 billion dollars in contributions. They have walked into the Vice-president’s office and written energy legislation that keeps us shackled to fossil fuels. They have written health care legislation denying access and affordability, and keeping prescriptions away from seniors. They have purposely misled this nation into an unnecessary war. WE, therefore, the architects and builders of Dean for America, appealing to the Wise Judgment of the American people on our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these United States, solemnly Publish and Declare, the People of these United States are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT OF SPECIAL INTERESTS and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT CITIZENS, they have full Power to participate, deliberate, pursue the common good, protect their own interest from corruption, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT CITIZENS may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, we mutually pledge to each other to write letters, knock on doors, organize our neighbors, self- fund this effort, and vote.