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To: Tommaso who wrote (27388)11/24/2003 8:26:06 AM
From: Mark Adams  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206092
 
T,

Many moons ago, I looked into Metal Hydrides as an H2 store. Like yourself, I don't see H2 as a great portable fuel source. It is an intermediate fuel store. Can't store electrons easily (there are larger superconductor rings, but impractical for most applications) but can store H2 local to production.

The diff between what I think you are thinking, and what I think industry is thinking, is you see make electricity, then using electrolysis to disassociate h2o. What industry is thinking, is thermal disassociation, sometimes with the aid of a catalyst. (COSA comes to mind)

Now, rather than just using off peak (nuke/wind/solar) capacity for electrolysis, you have 'cogen'. Here's another more complete yet short intro I found after a quick search. Note the 50% efficiency mentioned.

ch2bc.org

Found this using the keywords off one of the ETR slides..



To: Tommaso who wrote (27388)11/24/2003 8:40:30 AM
From: Louis V. Lambrecht  Respond to of 206092
 
Hydrogen generation is in it's infancy. Some projects are appearing which use uconventional methods. So, never say never.
fuelreformation.com diviion of shec-labs.com

Who would have believed a couple of years ago that natural gas would not need to be compressed and could be made available at a normal gas station pump? GTL does this (Gas to liquid) shell.com

Give technology some time.



To: Tommaso who wrote (27388)11/24/2003 8:57:16 AM
From: Archie Meeties  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206092
 
I don't think anybody thinks that hydrogen is going to be transported as a gas - as H2 - for the reasons you list. It will be transported within a matrix or hydride or nanotech structure. All of these options are expensive, but in their infancy.

bfi.org
fuelcellstore.com