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To: zonder who wrote (4655)	11/25/2003 6:00:04 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Hi zonder, Let me provide a little enlightenment for you on the methods of the U.S. government...... Re: TigerPaw: "The next step has too often been to interfere with the election cycles.... " Zonder: "Here you have lost me. Are you suggesting that the US might interfere with the elections in Turkey? How? By destroying the ballots? (See #2) Installing Jeb Bush as the Mayor of Istanbul so he can manipulate the votes? (See #7)" Might interfere? Oh heavens, the CIA has been busy doing this for decades. There are more subtle ways than destroying ballots, though that certainly is part of the repertoire. If you want to catch a glimpse at how cynical and manipulative the U.S. and UK secret services are in interfering in the internal politics of Middle Eastern countries, one of the best recent books on the subjects is Stephen Kinzer's "All the Shah's Men". amazon.com The techniques used in removing Mossadeq included several of the following documented methods of clandestine operations: 1) Planting editorials and false news stories in the local media that are really nothing more than propaganda for the interests of the secret services and the corporate interests they serve. 2) Hiring organized groups of thugs to create street chaos. In the case of Iran in 1953, Kermit Roosevelt actually was successful at hiring opposing groups of street toughs who clashed and murdered each other to an extent in a wonderfully orchestrated bit of phony chaos. 3) Employ police undercover officers as agents provocateur. This was most recently witnessed at the FTAA protests in Miami last week where witnesses saw a large group of "anarchists" emerge from behind police lines and start to foment disruption within an otherwise peaceful protest. 4) Pamphleteering by the CIA is an extremely common form of propaganda used by our agents. 5) VOA broadcasts are the transparent propaganda mode over the airways, but the outright purchase and control of ostensibly locally owned and operated radio stations in Istanbul by the forces of U.S. government interests are certainly not beyond reason, since this is done regularly here in the U.S. 6) Bribery of key officials is a commonplace. Here's a recent and somewhat funny example of how Chinese businessmen are attempting to influence U.S. political decision-making by means of bribery: chron.com 7) And in the most cynical sort of plotting, the U.S. interferes in the election cycles of foreign nations by perpetrating the very terrorist acts that we are purportedly engaged in attempting to halt in various pre-emptive strikes across the globe. Here's a couple of recent articles on this clandestine activity: Bombings: defendsison.be propagandamatrix.com americanfreepress.net intellnet.org Anthrax attacks: fas.org news.scotsman.com query.nytimes.com ********** To suggest that the U.S. can and does interfere in the elections in Turkey seems about the most obvious thing in the world. The secret police apparatus of the U.S. has been perfecting interference in the internal affairs of nations across the planet for well over half a century now.