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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (498647)11/25/2003 6:16:23 PM
From: microhoogle!  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
One or few pieces of intelligence never fit the puzzle. In fact all the data put together also never fits the puzzle. It is a combination of data gathered from the field along with "objective" extrapolation that gives a best estimate of intelligence. Unpoliticized use of it yields the best results. That was not the case here.
The data was twisted to fit the predetermined mold with goading from Cheney and others.

Universal opinion was not that Saddam had the WMDs. It was universal speculation fed by US intelligence (which is what many countries rely on - barring conspiracy theorist in Mid East). In this case Intelligence was "Twisted".

Remember the Yellow Cake incident few months ago ? Wilson affair rings a bell ?

In my earlier post I had listed N Korea to be higher priority. It should have Al Qaeda first followed by N Korea and others. Heck we are not even talking to or about N Korea.



To: Neocon who wrote (498647)11/25/2003 7:00:46 PM
From: microhoogle!  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
Speaking about intelligence.... here is an excerpt from Washington Post.

washingtonpost.com

Thomas Powers, an expert on intelligence, points out in the current New York Review of Books, Colin Powell "made 29 claims about Iraqi weapons, programs, behaviors, events and munitions" in his United Nations presentation, and none of them have yet been borne out. His was the best and the most detailed case the administration presented, down to the tonnage of chemical weapons, and I found it convincing at the time. I now feel taken. If Powell feels the same way, he's entitled -- but he ain't saying.

So much for lecturing me to grow up regarding intelligence matters... huh!!



To: Neocon who wrote (498647)11/25/2003 7:06:05 PM
From: Don Hurst  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
>>"The will to continue containment might easily have faltered, and the situation with the children was decreasingly tolerable.........."<<

Oh great...no WMD so now it is the suffering kids. Wrong... God told Bush to strike Saddam and he did and now God is mad at us because Bush missed.



To: Neocon who wrote (498647)11/25/2003 7:16:05 PM
From: PartyTime  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Bull! Powell's presentation to the UN came when Bush's popularity for the war had dipped below 50 percent. Powell presented propaganda, Bush and Powell together the next day gave a press conference to sink it in, and then the day after that Bush gave his big yellow cake speech. Approval for the war went over 50 percent, enough to justify Bush going in. That's what happened!