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As promised, this is the first interview with John Macken, the longtime Freeport McMoRan project director who promises to bring Ivanhoe Mines' Oyu Tolgoi copper and gold deposit to the ore-production stage within the next 12 to 16 months. The interview, conducted in California, is relevant to those watching the sharp rebound in gold and copper prices Wednesday morning in London and New York trading.
UBS Investment Research's Tony Lesiak, not usually a heads-over-heels believer in any emerging mining project of Oyu Tolgoi's scale, just handed me his latest equity research report on Ivanhoe Mines (HUGO on Nasdaq). The analyst, using a 10 percent discount rate and a $325 gold price/90-cent copper price, calculates fair value for Ivanhoe Mines' shares at roughly $17 Canadian and $13 U.S., or about 40 percent higher than the shares change hands for now. Ivanhoe Mines' American share price is $9.
Lesiak is enthusiastic about Ivanhoe Mines' continuing upgrades of high-grade drill results from the Hugo North part of Oyu Tolgoi. He estimates the entire Oyu Tolgoi deposit contains about 34 billion pounds of copper and 18.5 million ounces of gold as an inferred resource, making the site the world's sixth largest copper discovery and ninth largest gold find -- "after only two years of deep-drilling activities." Aggressive drilling (some 18 rigs are working the Gobi Desert property at present) makes it almost inevitable that greater grades and extents of this massive sulphide will be unearthed in coming months and years.
Ivanhoe Mines' advanced scoping study, explained by Ivanhoe Mines founder Robert M. Friedland in my television-broadcast interview with him (available this weekend on the CBS MarketWatch Weekend show on CBS in North America and on CBS.MarketWatch.com on the Web), is due out in late December. The study, says Lesiak, "should establish the economic viability of the project and analyse a number of alternative mining and development scenarios."
Says the 52-year-old Macken, in my interview: "The scoping study will give us a path forward. In 10 years' time, this (Oyu Tolgoi) will be the center of a large mining district."
Macken's work at the Grasberg Mine in Indonesia helped to turn it into one of the most efficient and profitable copper and gold mines -- in abominable conditions of constant rain, terrorism and political strife, not to mention extreme altitude. Freeport McMoRan (FCX) has a lot to thank Macken for, but the Irishman is anything but promotional about his past achievements.
First off, I asked Macken, as we nibbled several pieces of cocktail-style nigiri at the Belvedere home of his boss, Ivanhoe founder Friedland, about the 15 or more mining companies that are said to have visited Oyu Tolgoi in their own search for what could become a minority stake in one of the world's largest copper and gold projects. "If you ask me whether it's good to have a partner, I'd say, 'Yes.' There are synergies."
Macken, who is based in Perth, Australia, right now but plans to spend most of his time in Mongolia, continued. "At this stage, we are thinking about access to open pits, logical sizes for cuts into the mine, how that leads to an underground operation, and of course, going forward with an (ore) concentrator. The independent scoping study (AMEC is one of the engineering firms on the study) will help immensely," he said.
There are -- I have seen with my own eyes -- well more than 400 people working Oyu Tolgoi. Is the new president of Ivanhoe Mines going to pepper the lot with his own folks? "People keep saying, 'Are you going to bring in your own team?' But why lose a head of steam? We've got 500 people out there almost. We're now building long-term accomodation for our people. And we'll be mining in 12 months, mostly stockpiling ore and prestripping," Macken said.
As for power plants, possible smelter, tonnage estimates and so on, Macken says, "That's what you have feasability studies for. It takes quite a while to learn your boundaries on a project of this size. Look, we know it's easy to build roads out there. You've seen it. We have a deposit right next to China, a place that could be the highest buyer of concentrate in the market for the next 10 years. I have no problem shipping concentrates by road. We don't need a smelter. There are more than several in China. We're 200 kilometers or less to (China industrial city) Bao-Tao. Some smelters are very close to us there in the Gobi. Freeport doesn't have a smelter at Grasberg. They ship it to Spain and to Java and to 23 countries as concentrate. Every ton of it goes to a ship at a port. And look at how well that long-distance relationship has been. In contrast, we have land links to a buyer or buyers that are right there."
Friedland, Ivanhoe Mines' largest shareholder and a figure revered and scorned in the mining world because of the larger-than-life size of his past successes, interrupts to tell us, "We could ship by rail all the way to western Europe if need be."
Subscribers of The Calandra Report take note. This is not the definitive interview with Macken. Nor is it the last. It is merely the beginning of what I see as an information-gathering process that will monitor the development of a copper and gold resource with world-class probability. I own shares of Ivanhoe Mines, as you know. I think I'm in good company with Capital Research and other large asset managers from New York, Boston, London, Toronto, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Zurich and San Francisco.
Says Macken, just before we head to the Chilean sea bass platter, "As Jim Bob Moffett (head of Freeport McMoRan and Macken's former boss) likes to say, 'I have no intention of making a sow's ear out of this silk purse.'" (For more on Ivanhoe Mines, see the latest video interview: cbs.marketwatch.com
For those who may have ejected Ivanhoe Mines' shares during gold and copper's tiny setback last week, or in the wake of comments from technicians who can't see the mine for the trees, see this from the local newspaper: marinij.com.
And more ...
You have not heard the last from The Calandra Report on Ivanhoe Energy (IVAN), a longstanding member of the Recommended List. Coming next week: I'll provide figures on cash flow, and financial projections Ivanhoe Energy's Dagang oil field efforts and the Sichuan natural gas basin, from Ivanhoe Energy's David Martin. The former Occidental Petroleum executive expects a rapid impact on the company's financials in the wake of last week's China pact.
Finally, pay special attention to small-cap fund manager Dick Gould's comments on the small-cap technology rally, the wireless rage and those technology equipment companies whose sales are at "inflection points." The text alert was delivered earlier this week. I'm headed to Southern California to visit what could become another sales-inflection success story in the field of bio-informatics.
See you next week in The Calandra Report.
Thom Calandra owns shares of natural resources companies Atlas-Cromwell, Bitterroot Resources, Caledonia Mining, Ivanhoe Energy, Ivanhoe Mines, IMC Ventures, Nevsun Resources and Victoria Resource. Thom also owns shares of Sunridge Gold, Pacific Minerals, Sparton Resources and Gold Marca Ltd. He owns shares of diamond exploration company Tahera Corp. He is an owner of shares of MarketWatch.com, the publisher of this newsletter. Thom owns shares of Intraware, an electronic software manager, and he owns shares of Cardima, a medical device developer. He owns GigaMedia, a Taiwan Internet music and service provider. He owns the Australian dollar in a revolving six-month certificate of deposit.
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