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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (499150)	11/26/2003 1:43:54 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

When you call people like me "socialists", you really define yourself to a very extreme position within the republican party. Doesn't that at all concern you? I mean come on lets think about this. Here we are on a stock message board. Assuming most here do post on the stock threads, (I know many do not), but assuming most do- isn't it highly unlikely that an active SI participant is a socialist? What would you call people who 1) don't invest in stocks, 2) participate in environmental activism and 3) are not highly motivated in their career (in other words your average housewife)- a Bolshevic?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (499150)	11/26/2003 2:25:03 PM
From: average joe	Respond to of 769670

Caroline Sinz was in the Palestine hotel when it was bombed by the American troops. A shell ripped into her floor two rooms over. She was on the phone about to file a report and witnessed the mayhem firsthand. "I let the phone drop in the waste basket and I ran in the hallway to see what happened. I entered the room and I saw the Spanish cameraman that had been on the balcony filming like us. He was lying on the floor with his leg blown off. We tried to evacuate him to the hospital but it was total panic because the elevators didn't work anymore. We had to come down 14 floors and nobody was there." The FR3 footage clearly showed how the American tank aimed and fired at the Palestine Hotel. Incredibly her cameraman filmed the attack itself and was able to document that the shot came from an American tank. When she showed other journalists the videotape, they were shocked. "I was so surprised because in Baghdad we thought we were in danger from the Iraqis. And it was a shock that the Americans shot against journalists, against freedom of the press. And I think they wanted to do it like that. They wanted to shoot against the press to say, we are in Baghdad now and everything is possible so be careful." The American military claimed that they fired on the Palestine because there were snipers on the roof. And although Sinz's cameraman saw a few Iraqi with guns in the hotel, she claims that she never heard shots fired in the hotel. On that morning as she was about to file her report, all was quiet. A few days later Sinz invited a few of the American troops in the hotel into her room. She offered them a shower and some coca cola. The soldiers were young men who had been without contact with the outside world or their families for three months. "They told me how they came all the way from Kuwait at full speed in the desert shooting at everything and at anything that moved. They were young people that were just starting the military service. They just wanted to go back home and every day that was not the case, they stayed in Baghdad. The journalists were very anxious, the people in Baghdad were anxious and these young soldiers were very, very anxious." Before the Americans arrived, Sinz found the working conditions in Baghdad difficult. Iraqi government minders restricted where journalists were able to go and what they could film. And because of the attack on the Palestine Hotel, she feels that the American military created conditions that also thwarted the free press. "Before we were under the pressure of the Iraqis and without freedom. And when the Americans arrived, there wasn't more freedom. The Americans forbid us from certain places. By killing 3 journalists on that day, they frightened the journalists that were on the ground." While in Baghdad, Sinz documented the plight of the Iraqi people as their city was bombed. She toured the hospitals and watched as the American troops dug mass graves to bury the many dead. One image will haunt her forever. "I will remember the eyes of the women in Baghdad. So tired, so worried - all the nights they sleep with their children held close because if a bomb falls on their house, they want to die with them." cbc.ca