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To: Dayuhan who wrote (17870)	11/27/2003 12:11:08 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 793623

Excuse me, but how can you possibly claim that this remark is not directed at Muslims in general: Because "he" didn't refer to Muslims in general, but to Osama bin Laden. Even if it had, so what, Steven? Christianity is a creedal religion. Christians believe that their Christ is for real, and Mohammed is a false prophet - that is, if they actually believe in the religion. Lots of people, particularly Europeans, seem astonished to find out that there are any believing Christians left in this world, but America has plenty of them, and I fail to see why they should feel constrained to hide their beliefs - in their own churches, of all places! - just because you think the religion is drivel. Keep it separate from the state, and don't try to impose it on me, that's all I ask. I have pointed out that preaching absolute morality while practicing situational morality leaves one in an unnecessarily vulnerable moral position, and should be avoided It's called the human condition, so it's quite difficult to avoid. Problem is, preaching situational morality tends to leave you without anything at all to actually practice, except for habit, which is not imo an improvment, practically speaking.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (17870)	11/27/2003 2:55:14 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793623

Boykin was referring to the somalia operation and the warlord he was sent to get...which he did. as reported: "One of his most widely quoted remarks referred to a Somali warlord who boasted that he would not be captured because Allah protect him." "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol," Boykin said. Condo Rice explained... "The president's views on this are absolutely clear, and I think the president is very clear on what he means here. This is not a war between religions. No one should describe it as such," National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rica had said. I found her explanation fascinating. The Muslim extreme militants (the terrorists) have said repeatedly that they have a duty to God to kill Jews and Christians. They did not say to kill Hindus, animists and Buddhists...They do not say to kill American Indians, Hispanics, whites, Asians or blacks. They specifically say to kill Jews and Christians. If these Muslim words spoken repeatedly to each other and often to the press do not smack of religion...If they do not describe a religious war...Then certainly Boykin's remarks cannot be construed that way either.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (17870)	11/28/2003 10:02:11 AM
From: Rollcast...	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793623

Excuse me, but how can you possibly claim that this remark is not directed at Muslims in general: Because the god of that Somali warlord Boykin was talking is not the same God of "Muslims in general". I expect that kind of infantile drivel from Osama and his people Why dont you just drop it? You and your ideological mates simply see a military target you can snipe at. At best his idol/size comments can be seen as ambiguous. If you're interested in the resignation of government officials who encourage radical islam and terrorists with their words perhaps you should examine the comments of Ted Kennedy and Tom Daschle.