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To: John Carragher who wrote (17895)	11/27/2003 7:21:25 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793801

I really miss John when I have this kind of Ammunition. He loves Krugman. WHERE’S THAT CAT? A few weeks ago on NPR’s Marketplace, Paul Krugman seemed astounded by the news that GDP in the 3rd Quarter had grown by 7.2% growth: …something is wrong. I -- I -- I have to say, we -- all of us who watch this sort of thing -- and this is -- this is wearing my professor hat...are just scratching their heads and saying, 'Is there something wrong with the data? And if so, which part of the data?' …We seem to have gone into the Twilight Zone. We don't know quite what's going on." Well, yesterday we learned that the revised GDP number is 8.2%. Today we learn that weekly jobless claims dropped again, by 11,000 from the previous week, and by 10,000 for the four week moving average. That cat is going to have a long, hard fall back to earth! dhogberg.com

To: John Carragher who wrote (17895)	11/27/2003 10:27:27 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793801

Ammonium-Nitrate Explosives Used in Turkey Bombings; Bodies of British Victims Flown Home By Selcan Hacaoglu Associated Press Writer Nov 27, 2003 ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) - Ammonium nitrate-based explosives were used in four deadly suicide truck bombings in Istanbul, police said Thursday, as the bodies of two British diplomats were flown home after a somber ceremony. Used as fertilizer, ammonium nitrate can become a powerful explosive when combined with fuel oil, a mixture used to make the bomb that killed 168 people in Oklahoma City in 1995. "The suicide bombers have carried out the attacks with ammonium nitrate-based explosives placed in the beds of pickup trucks," Istanbul's deputy police chief Halil Yilmaz told a news conference. Western and Turkish officials say the series of suicide attacks in Istanbul - targeting two synagogues Nov. 15, and two British targets five days later - bore the hallmarks of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida. The attacks together killed 51 people and wounded 712, said Yilmaz. The four attackers also died, the deputy police chief confirmed, for the first time. "Suicide bombers were blown into pieces," he said. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had put the death toll at 57, including the bombers. But an official, speaking on condition of anonymity, explained the discrepancy Thursday, saying two bodies had been counted twice by mistake. British Consul-General Roger Short and his assistant, Lisa Hallworth, were among those killed when an Islamic militant rammed an explosive-laden pickup truck into the main gate of the British Consulate. That attack happened minutes after a suicide bomber exploded a truck outside a London-based bank - the kind of near simultaneous, multiple attacks carried out by al-Qaida in the past. Turkish soldiers loaded their coffins, each draped with a Union Jack, onto a Turkish military cargo plane for the trip to Britain. Istanbul Gov. Muammer Guler joined other British diplomats for a religious ceremony at Ataturk Airport. Yilmaz said two Japanese-made Isuzu pickup trucks were used in the synagogue attacks, while two white Japanese-made Hino pickup trucks used to attack the British targets. Also Thursday, prosecutors began questioning nine more suspects who could be charged later in the day. A total of 18 suspects have been charged in connection with the bombings so far, for crimes including membership in an illegal organization and attempting to overthrow Turkey's secular regime, Yilmaz said. Prosecutors have not issued detailed indictments yet and no trial date has been set. Police raiding suspects houses confiscated two handguns and two "pen guns" - which can fire a single bullet - four shotguns and sniper's binoculars. They also seized bomb-making material, tear gas, ski masks, 20 wireless radios, cameras, and documents in Arabic, Yilmaz said. Turkish officials have said all four suicide bombers were Turkish nationals, militants with international contacts. Newspapers have said some of them could have been trained in al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan or Iran. "Their foreign connections have been found out. They have been to al-Qaida. There are pro-Chechens among them," Justice Minister Cemil Cicek was quoted as saying by the newspaper Milliyet on Thursday. Cicek did not elaborate. Police raids of suspected hideouts of Islamic militants were under way. Despite at least three claims of responsibility allegedly from Al-Qaida, the prime minister said investigators had not reached any conclusions. Police also are investigating possible links between the bombers and Hezbollah, an illegal Islamic group that is different from the Lebanon-based group with the same name. Three of the suicide bombers were from the southeastern town of Bingol - a hotbed of Hezbollah activity. AP-ES-11-27-03 0901EST This story can be found at: ap.tbo.com