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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: geode00 who wrote (499791)11/28/2003 3:24:14 PM
From: Dan B.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Re: "You need to stick to a single point of view as you're very muddled and are mixing up facts:"

Gee, is that an "argument to the man?" An Ad hominen? Let's see.

Re: "...buying nuclear material to make weapons doesn't constitute an imminent threat?"

That may be true, if not when Iraq is the buyer(depends upon your time-frame for "imminent"). Believing only that reports said the attempt was made to purchase it, Bush said only that reports said the attempt was made. Had he said we knew they bought and possessed it, perhaps your side would have agreed the threat needed acting upon.

Re: "Of course this statement has been totally discredited"

LOL, no it hasn't. One guy says it didn't happen, though the testimony that it did happen hasn't changed. This doesn't prove it didn't happen, only that one guy says one other guy's testimony isn't enough proof that it did for the President to be repeating it. But the report remains, the report which says it happened.

Re: "Argue with Wolfowitz as he says no."

In fact Wolfowitz doesn't claim to know one way or the other. Why do you lie like that? It is so weird!

Re: "Which, ironically, looks like he actually destroyed."

I guess you didn't notice Kay's report said he's found that efforts were made to hide things. So you think it looks like...it looks I've got a bridge to sell ya.

Re: "I, however, demand a better military leader than a TV detective."

Does this do anything to address the issue of Saddams efforts to hide things in Iraq? The rhetorical answer is no.

Re: "Huh? Shrubbery said that(Saddam had Nuclear Weapons ready to go in 2003...for 10 years running) by talking about the African buying program which turned out to be a complete lie. Are you this gullible?"

LOL. Not only does the report that an attempt(unsuccessful) was made to buy material in Africa still stand, but Bush's repetition of it is a far cry from Bush saying Saddam had Nuclear Weapons ready to go in 2003 and for 10 years running(he did not). So what do you mean he "said that" when he said something completely different? ONLY the terribly gullible could begin to equate these two very very different statements(one of which is manufactured of whole cloth, at that).

WHO TOLD YOU THAT!!??? LOL....yup, nothing left but the ad hominem, a lie or two, and an opinion or two without substance. This is all in my humble opinion, of course.

Dan B.



To: geode00 who wrote (499791)8/3/2004 12:43:57 PM
From: Dan B.  Respond to of 769667
 
LOL...recent news on 'ol Joe kinda makes you look silly, eh? As for "muddled," when you equated Bush's still likely accurate statements about attempts to purchase uranium with the notion of a 10 year claim of an imminent threat, that was about as muddled as one could be, re your: "Huh? Shrubbery said that by talking about the African buying program".

In fact, as I said, "Nobody said Saddam had Nuclear Weapons ready to go in 2003, let alone for 10 years running"