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To: tom pope who wrote (42189)	11/29/2003 8:46:48 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

Accepting your interpretation of his advice to rule and lie, what happens when the lie blows up in your face (as it has in Iraq)? The logic is to create a new 9/11. As you might be aware, Bush has been engaged in a wholesale attempt to cover-up the malfeasance and fraud that occurred on 9/11. Evidence that NORAD intentional stood down is being suppressed by the DoD and the Bush team, frustrating the efforts of the Kean Commission to get at records that prove that the fighter jet response on 9/11 was absolutely deliberately delayed. Standard FAA/NORAD policy was egregiously violated that morning, and the effort to cover up this information is fierce. The logic of the neocon scheme leads them inexorably toward a new major terrorist incident in the U.S. in order to further intimidate and frighten the American public. As you might be aware, retired General Tommy Franks is already bragging that another 9/11 will introduce military control of the U.S. government in a two step fashion. First, the neocons will argue that the government is not capable of protecting the people with the present Constitutional restraints on executive leadership. Once public opinion is sufficiently intimidated, Bush & Cie. will simply declare the Congress to be an impediment to the security of the American people and disband this branch of the government. The public will be fed a media blitz on the absolute desirability of totalitarianism disguised as "strong leadership in the face of a great threat from foreign terrorists." And that is the day that the 225 year old experiment in American democracy dies. ****** Re: Damn, I think I'm becoming a Clintonite. That won't help. Clinton is part of the problem. He's fully engaged in the elitist racket of expanding executive authority at the expense of the public's right to self-rule. He will be no impediment to Bush's mad power grab. *** Re: Is there any possibility of redemption? I put the chances at much less than 50:50. Recall that there was a vocal minority expressing alarm at Hitler's insane schemes for empire in the German body politic in the middle and late 1930s. This opposition, however intellectually acute, motivated and correct in its view of the situation, was completely overwhelmed by the militarist, ultra-nationalistic propaganda blitz that overwhelmed the ignorant German public. Similarly, the Right Wing has been assiduously destroying the educational system and information dissemination organs in America for the past 30 years. Americans are the most ignorant people about the nature of American foreign policy among all OECD populations. The deliberately misunderstanding of America's role in the world has been nurtured by the Right Wing for decades. Millions of Americans still believe that America stands for democracy across the planet. The rest of the planet has seen the results of U.S. policy first hand and understands this to be a complete fantasy. The U.S. foreign policy and repeated military intervention is the iron fist under the velvet glove of "free trade" and "democracy". *** Re: A return to a policy that understands that to further the interests of the United States an appreciation of the limits on U.S. power is essential? You must necessarily begin to make the distinction between two competing visions of what "American interests" are. One the one hand, the myth is that American interest is in spreading peace, democracy and free trade. This is the image that the media always propagandizes about, and it is the myth that most Americans accept. The other and actual "American interest" is actually the special interests of the U.S. based multinational corporations who regularly use the U.S. military to impose discipline on unruly populations across the globe who resist the will of the corporate chieftains. This is "War is Just a Racket" thesis that was correctly forwarded by Lt. Gen. Smedley Butler in his speeches before "America First" crowds in the 1930s. lexrex.com fas.org A more contemporary observer of globalization is the New York Times columnist Tom Friedman. He succinctly stated what American interests amount to. To paraphrase him, "in order for MacDonald's to succeed, McDonnell-Douglas will also succeed in the global marketplace." Or, as Bush's negotiators told the Taliban in the summer of 2001 when "American interests" were trying secure a pipeline route across Afghanistan, we would either smother the Taliban in "a carpet of gold, or a carpet of bombs." And we know the results of that failed negiation now. ****** Good luck with your enlightenment. To call the Bush neocons "conservatives" is the akin to calling Attila the Hun a "moderate".